#632 : All Star Break 2026

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[SPEAKER_03]: Three, six, we on this, so true, man You know what's up?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to Birdland Yeah, yeah, welcome to Birdland You know what's up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Birdland Birdland Now, here come the boys from section three, three, six

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ladies and gentlemen boys and girls Baltimore sports teams all ages welcome to section 336 next generation Baltimore sports suck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am you're in doing something host Matt's Roca as always.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm joined by the butt number Josh Roca Hey, I'm dealing with two dogs here that will not stop barking for some reason

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to come on the pot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They want to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or they are as frustrated with the Orioles as we are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, it's all strawberry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to jump, do you want to jump right into the Orioles?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready to talk about the red hot Orioles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, here's the problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Orioles are red hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were also looked great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Orioles won four in a row for the first time Yeah, feel safe turn the corner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it feels like they've turned the corner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then we had the what three days off four days off for the off-star break I guess is it four days Monday to four most teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Yeah, but yeah, Orioles come back tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for the Orioles it's a four-day break

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, but it's really a brick because you know lack of representation in all of the all surface divvities It was a real, yeah, we had that, but I have to disturb the brick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's having a good year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's having a very good year

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a lot to be excited about here in Berlin, but even a win streak, Josh finds a way to take a good win streak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to somehow make it a negative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Congrats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that I'm all in now and believe again and one thing that really concerns me and it's not the break what is the break but not that kind of break is he the blazed out of the underbreak yeah I think that's a big blow I think it is too and people want to blow it off well it's just blaze I it seems like at times the past couple weeks he was the only guy getting hits once in a while

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's not just that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's what he brings to this team in terms of, yes, like, capital, over 300.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it's the defense too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He can play short, third, outfield.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's been super consistent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, you know, I feel bad for him because he's having a career year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel bad for oral fans and myself, because I think it's a huge blow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's gonna be more play in time for Kobe Mario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, last days off, who are?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: when they when they put them on the aisle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it do they print their stuff up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think you got to bring someone who can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because right now there's no one who could really back up at short.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I guess you could swing jacks out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess Jeremiah Jackson maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremiah Jackson's your extra infielder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think they want another infielder in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, and then my, my frustration, my negativity as you put it is my fear of being, of being abused again, my fear of I'm all back in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And are we gonna, are we real?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I keep thinking this team is turning the corner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or am I, are we gonna lose five in a row again?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And be right, and we love to hover on this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just below 500, just out of the wild card, where we don't know, are we buyers, are we sellers, what does all this mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know, I know you don't know about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like Dean Cramer coming back, he pitched super well in the mind as long as we have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's actually well in the majors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He replaced trade gifts and who really has struggled, who has good stuff, but has struggled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think to me that's like now I've had five starting pictures who I feel good about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why I feel can keep us in the game and when and when every game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so feel good about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Josh, do you know according to fan graphs?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are our playoff odds are?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not high, can't be high because you also have to take the, the fact that the Orioles always get put down in numbers, fan graphs never believes in the Orioles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're haters, but even the fan graphs haters put it at 22%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, before the four game win streak and this shows you how much it shifts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Before the four game win streak, it was 13%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's kind of how I feel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like this team has all the talent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't been able to put it together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've finally put it together for four games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I got good news for you, Josh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because this team has been yo-yo and you a bit and toying with your emotions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sorry for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the good news is we're gonna know real quick because you got a bunch of teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: who have very similar records, a very similar record to the Orders, who all are in like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're a few games outside the Watt, a two or three games outside the Watt card, and we don't know for buyers or sellers, if we're sellers,

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of pieces that can be moved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I think what I'm going to talk about this borrows, but I think the borrows have very few pieces to move there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the borrows can be sellers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But other things like Boston and the astros and the tigers have a lot of really big pieces they can move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we all, astros, red socks, tigers,

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[SPEAKER_00]: All have about the same record and coming out the all-star break before the trade deadline We play the Astros the Red Sox We have a series of the braves and then we play the Tigers and I think putting those three teams the Astros the Red Sox and Tigers

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe, and yeah, the orals between those, but those four teams, I think they'll be one or two buyers in that group and one or two sellers and we'll know who the buyers and sellers are when we get after the Tiger series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think we're going to find out pretty quick if this team for real are not if we're going to be buyers or sellers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think two orals can be sellers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who do we sell?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, we don't have a lot to actually be sellers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, it's really two guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's a couple of fringe bullpenters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to talk about Kittredra Kano, but only two legit guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they have the word.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they have the word.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a catcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, it's a good one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Trevor Rodgers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Trevor Rodgers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they're both expired.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I lost your audience, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got it back now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you that like the tigers have scuba to trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Astros have pain yet to trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Red Sox have Wilson Contrace and a couple of the guys that you could trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Among the, like, we have the, and I don't think we're going to even raid Gunner or Adley, we're just trying to be set for next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If trades are made, the list is going to be very short.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to give very few pieces about even being buyers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is very short of what you can sell it as you bring stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Josh, what is, if you were going to be buyers, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think this team, because the interesting thing is, I think

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[SPEAKER_00]: The biggest need is starting pitching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The biggest need is relief pitching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The biggest need is outfield.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The biggest need is third base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can make a lot of arguments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where if you throw us can make one big acquisition, what position do you think we should look at?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the bullpen has been banged out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The bullpen has been injured.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have full trust in the bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think a late-in-and-dominant pitcher, a real close or at the moment,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was, um, Kitcher's been taking some, um, Tyler Wells been taking some.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but do you trust Tyler Wells?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't trust Wells.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Too many long balls for Wells.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What, what's the, um, Ryan, Hell'sly didn't have surgery, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, I know Keegan Aiken, um, is going to have Tommy John, Adam to, to, to the list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Ryan, Hell'sly, he could come back at some point, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was, he was a non-serv, but of course it could lead a surgery as always stupid elbow injuries do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he still, five days ago, update with him is still inflammation, went on the 15 day on July 3rd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so they hope he can come back, but there's no guarantees with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See, I would put bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would, you know, what I would go with, if I could make one acquisition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would get a new center filter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would go out field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If it's not pitching, I'd go out field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I trust the starters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not worried about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree, and most people in mainstream media will say so you need to upgrade the starter position.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's a lazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're saying the oil's need to picture you're being lazy with your numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we don't even believe in Trevor Rogers and Cobb Brownish and Shane Bass and we have always believed and then we still believe in them side and I don't think we've lost we've had a lot of close games that we have that weren't lost because of pitch and They lost because we couldn't score three runs and

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're going to upgrade pitching, yeah, going at school, he would be the best addition, but you're not going to be at a sports school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the guy you kind of Ford, I'm just going to give me young and creamer, because I think it's going to be pretty much the same as what you can afford in the trademark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A center field, I would be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would've been saying for a while, if you can get a center fielder and move cows at a right field and have ward a new guy in cowser,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, here's the what problem with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to look at the ESPN top 100 trade candidates.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's only one center field of worth trading for in that whole list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Byron Buxton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's kind of costs a whole lot though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, but no, I think he will because he still is a couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think three more years, he has this year and two more years in the contract.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of like an, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: want to keep him unless they get kind of blown away by an offer so I think it's a similar to other situation and outside of him there's really no but now there's a guy personally I like who I didn't see in any trade list or trade candidates but I think we could afford him if they're willing to part with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's, I like that kid, Jacob Young, from the Nationals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we always play as well as the Nationals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's an elite defender, average offensively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to change a job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it would be an elite center filter defensively at the very least.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, I think that could be a reasonable route we could go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see it, even for buyers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see it's going buying guys for half a season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going guys who will try to help us win this year and in the next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree because then you're just to find it of you're setting it up for next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're saying it's also, Mike Eli is blaming this season on entries, which is what we saw with John Horrible a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is mediocre seasons and you blame entry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it has been, yeah, and if this was, if Lashard didn't happen, okay, but now this is two years if that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, injuries can only get you so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Often right the best teams are the healthiest teams like that's not a coincidence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's always a factor If you lose some of your best players, it's gonna obviously hurt you But obviously, but the biggest problem with the or is I mean when the injuries is I mean across the board outside of Adley The it's not every player's under-beformed especially I and I was saying this last week Gunner Henderson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like Gunner Henderson has been the heart of this team

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he can start getting on base, the team starts to hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The team starts to line up, starts to move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like a lot comes down to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, yeah, that and there was two engines of this team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like in

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing over there that you keep on putting on my move, the thing comes on plugged.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was two engines of the team, and that would be Gunner, of course, a couple years ago, and then Jordan Westburg.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you take away both those kind of engines of the offense, and it hurts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Jordan, injury, Gunner, because bad performance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you just look at the set up this team, I still.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still in love with this roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still in love with a line of this has angry basalo and and a lanzo in the middle of it and Gunner leading off with Ward Like that every day at Adley has played has exceeded the expectations for me Yes, and so like there's so much to still like about this offense and we're finally starting to see Rogers and Braddish Pitch at their capable love young has been an amazing surprise Kramer has been consistent

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[SPEAKER_00]: Baz, as has shown flashes of greatness, and is good, he'll keep you in the game, and so I still am just in love with this roster, and yeah, I still think the same as potential to make a move, and if we could, just a center-fielder stink, just really all of them, defensively, the all stink, and offensively, you're getting so little production.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Outside of Taylor Ward, you're getting so little production from the rest of the handful guys, you're being thrown out there, O'Neal and Beavers and Calors and Tobaris, all of them add up to maybe one average outfutter combined.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is, yeah, but when you look at how things stand, I think the best bet for the Orioles is that they make no moves during the trade deadline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The day do nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, O'Neal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that they bring up cursed dead and say, hey, we brought up an outfielder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a bat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been hitting the ball well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You bring him up because he's healthy and you say, hey, we're getting hot with the same guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to run it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The beauty of baseball is that it's a long season and you have to be

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of dredged through it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you can hang in there until the end you just have to make the playoffs and get hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the Orioles have hung in there close enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're hanging in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to see us pass 500 this month.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that'd be a big thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's something that's going to be needed that we go into August at 500 in order to be real contenders for this wild card spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But all we have to do is fight hard enough to get into that wild card spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I gave up on one nail, we're 11 and a half came out, but we still can fight for these wildcard spots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The American League is the more mediocre than it has ever been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just have to be a little bit better than mediocre.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I still like us to see like again, I mentioned Jacob young if it's not him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like to see us get if we can't get a A big offensive edition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the rest of our office of guys can kind of carry it to carry us there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like to see an elite Defensive center filter, especially when on the other side you have teleward and if you're gonna have cursed at or kneel I feel like you need that elite set center.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just don't know if we can get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if we can make the moves if we have the parts To make that move

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially with a guy like Michael highest who doesn't like the trade people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Michael highest makes the same amount of trades that any other GM and situation would make.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't think he hordes prospects.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't think he hordes prospects.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he hordes prospects.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think he makes a move?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it depends what happens next two weeks, and I think the Orioles have turned a corner, I do, and I think they'll continue, even with the injury with blaze, which is brutal, I think we'll still continue to win, and if we have success against the Red Sox and Astros, along with the Tigers that we'll be seeing those games, I mean we're going to watch the most important games of the season, I do think they'll make some peripheral moves, I think a lad may be a bullpen arm, and maybe an outfielder, I do think they'll

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[SPEAKER_00]: we play well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we struggle, I think either sits and does nothing or maybe just trades a cano or a kittred, probably just trades a kittred or something minor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're, I don't think he even trades ward, even though a lot of people will say it's a done deal of thorals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think if we come out hot, there's no need to trade ward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We went into the Alcerbrook, yeah, we won four in row, but we also won seven out of the last ten.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that seven of ten, seven and three every ten games is the pace we have to go at for the rest of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that pays what certainly get us where we need to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that would keep you keep ward, keep make no moves at that point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe a smaller minor addition.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I just don't see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't see the candidates to make it happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That to make this team better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you don't see how even like a poorly hitting really good defensive outfielder could make this seem a little bit better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, it could as long as you're yeah, because we are outfielders already poorly hitting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know what you can trade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to have this looking up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess you can trade a couple of 70s people that are the Florida golf course they go whenever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, ESPN says the outfield candidates that make the most sense for the Orioles are Mickey Moniac from the angels and Jake McCarthy from the Diamondbacks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just familiar with either of these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mickey Moniac has a 278 bat in average and 15 home runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, that's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I'm worried about defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of worried about defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want someone who's in the lead center filter and those are cornered out filters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Agreed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a guy who has terrible offensive numbers for the met, Harrison Bader.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that could be a guy who's not going to help you offensively, but at least you know when you throw him out there, you play a match-ups and you listen and all you have an elite defender out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could see that, so you're saying you regret trading Arilite Defender, Cedric Mullins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean...

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not an elite defender.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's...

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not that good of a centerfielder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think he would walk on our roster today and be the best centerfielder on the team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that doesn't say much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look at them, just put up the savant in terms of out-to-bub average in terms of centerfielders, surgical mullins is number 34.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Coat and cows are is number 39.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So our centerfielders.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's enough centerfielders above ours to field every other team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, and some and number one is my boy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know this when I was talking about it But number one is Jacob young for the nats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So sorry Jacob young your number one defender Yeah, I feel defense according to out above average.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all right then maybe I mean even um What's it Varsha Varsho up in Toronto?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if Toronto becomes sellers, that's a guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's going to lead the fender too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be an elite defender too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's one that keep an eye on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love, I would love for this team to get a center fielder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's number 19 on this list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: OK, again, all above, you just marked out there's 38 guys above what we currently have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we can bring in a defensive center fielder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that makes a little bit of a difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How many runs a game does a elite center field or versus a good center field get you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does it save you maybe one run a game?

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[SPEAKER_00]: One only that much, but I mean, it could add up to, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A couple wins and it could, what it does is it makes big plays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where it could take a loss to make it a win from a occasional big place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where you got to get that ball in?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, how many games did we feel like a Cedric Mullins, we were a Cedric Mullins diving catch?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let us do a game that we could have lost if wasn't for a couple of such a long diving catches and to be fair Colton Cals are Tyler and Neil Pillar Ward, they've all had their moments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They make diving catches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the question is low and Like what he dives for a good Right field or what catch in the air every time without diving.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's made some nice diving catches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has a

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one every time I'm always amazed after he makes it out of me catch he gets up I always accept that I'm not on the 15-day deal I am that's the exact way So you are all in on this team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel really good about this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, good I if we come out of the officer break hot

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I'm, yeah, then I'm going to feel great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of squash my concerns and my worries because we won for an arrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've had that elusive fourth win has been

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ridiculous all season where there were plenty of opportunities where I felt like we were going to get that fourth win to the point where I gave up and was like, oh, it'll never happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can't get four in a row.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got four in a row.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we have a break.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can we come into it mentally and continue to build on it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the haters might say Josh, part of the four game win streak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a coincidence that three of them are against the royals, who are one of the worst teams of baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but even when we played the cubs, I'd felt like every game against the cubs was winnable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and then, and then, of course, as you mentioned, we won three in a row right before that, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel, I feel like all of June, the losses were closed, the losses were heart breaks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had, yeah, I'd have to look at the scoreboard, but I'd do a lot about the series well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dodgers that should have been a sweep, yeah, we had a brutal last game against the angels that every Nats game, every game against the Nats was was a one or two run game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, yeah, we lost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Makes you wonder what an elite center foot would do, doesn't it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could help.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could definitely help.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm there with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't have faith in our manager.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have faith in my Elias, but I like the players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like our guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's let's talk about my Elias for a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's we just had the 2026.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to go just after the couple players, you know, booth and tie head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're the first two picks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did get a master bear, which I was excited about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you texted me and listen, if you want to break down these draft picks, listen on the verge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they do a much better job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not breaking down draft picks here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see them in four years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you set me a text.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think right before the draft may be saying for the next podcast We should look at alliances.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, exactly

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I did some homework.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good, based on that text, because I knew you wanted to do it, so...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I completely forgot I sent that text.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I did the homework, and I got to save Josh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After last season in this season, I am the lack of development with cursed ed, how cows are maybe even holiday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These guys are just kind of plateauing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, plateauing Mayo?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kobe Mayo?

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[SPEAKER_00]: and Rickey Bradford Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The lack of pitching draft didn't develop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was starting to feel a little bit down on Elias.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You gave me this homework assignment, Josh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I got to say, after going back and looking at the draft, I've completely shifted to now I am all aboard the Michael Elias train.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think at least in the draft, he's been crushing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the second takeaway from looking at this, and we'll get in some details in a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My second takeaway is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, as you talk about the trade deadline, trade these stupid prospects because there's so many of them don't work out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They never would.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just trade them all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so rare for the players dude actually hit on these draft picks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I say just trade them all away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's look at some of these draft picks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 2019.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was his first year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he had it easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had the number one overall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he picked Adley Watchman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Over Bobby with junior.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, so I've least been fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put that one down We all forgot gunner Henderson that right yeah, and we got gunner Henderson, so if you look at a total war We got the number two guy in the number three guy in the draft or I'm sorry number two and number four right right right All right, but that one's easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had the first pickover all we were the worst team in baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay gunner was not an easy pick

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[SPEAKER_00]: But okay, go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 2020.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Est in Kirstead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you rate that pick?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've never seen him do anything up in the big leagues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Josh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't just do it in a vacuum.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at the, that's a terrible draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at the top nine picks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the top nine picks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can run through them Spencer Torklson, has to curse that Max Meyer, Ace Lacy, who's never made a two to the majors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Austin Martin, who's only had a couple of coffins in the majors, every single hand-cognick, you go down list top nine picks, Josh, no one has a war that even touches two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so you're saying 2020, everybody sucked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's your excuse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To find a good player, you've got to go to Garcorshay, who was picked number 11, and then Keith Crow Armstrong, who was picked number 19.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's only like two elite picks in that, in that direction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Orioles didn't get Westburg in 2020 also, so if it won for injury issues, I'd give him credit for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, so Josh, but here's the thing in the in the draft we just mentioned I told you in the draft and you can say well, oh, we had number one pick, but but we have the number two guy and we're so far in the career listen to this and then number four guy in the 2020 draft the next year we have the what according to war in the career 1 2 3 4 5 we have the six best player according to war in Jordan Westburg from that draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: then maybe we do just have a development problem that we can't draft players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're just, your excuses, well, they all sucked from that year so don't worry about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying if you compare them to other teams, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have had Elias has had a lot more success than other teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, 2021, Colton Cows are fifth overall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has not lived up to that potential.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know where he ranks in terms of career war in that draft from first rounders?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He ranks number six, six, let's fire in that draft so far in that first round.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you what, Josh, the first pick was Henry Davis in that draft, has a negative point nine war.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The second pick was Jack Lider, has a negative 1.7 war.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The third pick in that draft was Jack's and Job, 0.6 war, then Marcelo Meyer, 0.3 war, and then Colton Coward are 4.1 more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: War.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 14 picks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has turned out to be the best player out of those top 14 picks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 22 Jackson holiday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First overall again for Michael.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he said to first overalls Jackson holiday has Jackson holiday played up to first overall out of 2020.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you guys recall the 2022 draft where we took Jackson holiday, it was like a bunch of coaches

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[SPEAKER_00]: People were talking about, you remember it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did all the talk about Kumar Rocker?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, um, uh, to Mar Johnson with another guy in a larger green and another, uh, son of a player, Jacob Barry, um, there was all these elite high school talented players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Drew Jones, to Mar Johnson, a larger green, Jacob Barry, all elite high school guys, along with Jack's holiday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of those guys has made it to the majors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Only one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's Jack's holiday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You are a Michael high as apologies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just look at the numbers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Drew Johnson, I mean, sorry, Drew Jones, tomorrow Johnson, a larger green ticket pair, all struggling in the miners currently, all of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the Jack's holiday has a 1.2 war and it's an everyday major leagueer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Judd Fabian.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Max Wanger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Same here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you look at them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those were those first round draft picks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were not first round draft picks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know who was the first round draft pick in that draft though, Josh?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who?

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of the girls had two first rounds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you had the, you know, the after first round, but still part of the first round.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dylan Beavers, who ranks as the one, two, three, four, five, six, seventh best player to come out of that draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dylan Beavers, taking number 33 overall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like these numbers because my eyes, everything you're telling me is not what my eyes say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, we have two of the top eight players in that draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, my eyes is crushing it with the draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Croshing it with mediocre.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you compare them to every other team they're at at least.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we've had better draft picks because our team sucked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The guys we picked better be the number one guys because we had the number one draft picks for two of those four years

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[SPEAKER_00]: but that's fine, but we still hit on a bunch of guys even a later rounds that are even in later in that first round, a Jordan Westburg and like Dylan Beavers and like Gunner Henderson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is not to mention, I didn't even include, we've already traded guys like the Stowers and Connor Norby who were drafted and then traded and cost hours done really well with Miami, and that's a liest draft picks as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you, from where I'm sitting, and thank you for the homework assignment, Josh, we can criticise Elias for some stuff, but for the draft, I think he's doing okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this stupid homework assignment does make him look good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It did not pass the eye test, but he did draft Adley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's to here's my problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He drafts a guy with other teams in the L.E., he's just,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, here's, then it's a lift off problem because he drafted Adley Gunner, Westburg, Calzer, Holiday, Mayo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's our team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the core foundation of our team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all kids he drafted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After that was Fabian and Rikai Badford Jr. who haven't been able to make it up here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's the core.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then what's the issue?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did we plan on lift off too early?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he say it's lift off from here and he should've never said anything?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why does it feel like we haven't been able to develop our players in the superstars?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think there's a couple of things one is, I mean, I think prior to this year, everyone argued that gunner harnesses is a superstar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so what happened here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's having a down year, people have down years, Adley Ruchman had a down year, but now Adley Ruchman's back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the narrative that like, once you get up here, you stink.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because all these players too, I recall Adley being a very successful in the miners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jackson ran right through the miners, like Gunner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it seems like they have, like, cold cows are going example, time to success right when they come up, for a lot of these guys, and then struggle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I know they always say the jump from Duboy to Tripoy is the hardest for the Orioles that really seems like that jump to the majors is tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we don't have a guy that comes out and I can't remember the last time a guy came out and we're like, oh yeah, he deserves to be up here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you also wonder, is it asking too much that Adly Gunner, Westberg, that all these guys are just both a duo by themselves?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't until, I mean, we had a success a few years ago when we brought in Corbin Burns to lead the rotation to be a trait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we then this year, we went and got Pete Pete Alonzo last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did bupkis and so maybe and this is part of maybe We did some last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but but maybe it's been our lack of our unwillingness to spend money and for agency And this idea to think we can do we can accomplish all of our goals

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[SPEAKER_00]: be adjusted draft and maybe we were spoiled a few years ago and my Elias got fooled in the thinking oh I don't need free agent signings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can do this all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Plug in season and the draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but but it's hard to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is especially when what we don't have on that list when you talk about my Elias is pitching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The orders have done a horrible job with pitching development.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's why we're in this kind of no draft capital.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where we were clamoring last year for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Spend money, bring a real ace.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because a real ace would make a difference on this team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What we saw with carbon burns, sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that might be changing now, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen Brandon Young, have a good bit of success.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know some of our top prospects in our pictures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been happy with the picture in this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you hope this kind of shifting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, all our pictures are veterans, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Our trade guys, our guys are already here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're not draft developers, that's Brandon Young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So first half of this season, what went wrong?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We came in expecting to be winning the AL East, at least fighting for the AL East.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What went wrong was this team?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and my answer is going to be a kind of a cop out in stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I was, if I was more skeptical, I would think this opinion's stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it was a bad combination of both injuries and just slumps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Pete, Pete allows us a good example.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a really good player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's going, but he just slumped.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That for it, it took him about a month to warm up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he couldn't hit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he started hitting again the end of June until I.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we, and his numbers now are pretty good, and I think we saw that, I think we saw, you know, Colton, Cows are in Tallow and Neil, just couldn't anything, and I know we don't expect them to put a huge numbers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's another thing, right, like freeze and signings, you sign on Neil to be a lefty killer, and he can't kill anyone, let it over after he's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's been a sign that hasn't worked out and so I mean it'd be interesting that wasn't part of my homework assignment But to look at Elias is free agent signings and how he's gone about in in that business But I don't think Elias is problem is the draft what was the world's best month of winning baseball do you know this year this year

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would they so far as July for terms of winning percentage?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, we're four and three in July.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a part of this June.

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[SPEAKER_01]: June 11 and 16.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What April?

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[SPEAKER_01]: April 13 and 13.

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[SPEAKER_01]: May.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Part of 16 and 16.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Consistent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about these numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what catchy PT brought up, but if we were 500 ball in April and in May, we wanted to have been way below 500 in June, so this has to be wrong numbers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, can I just say when I was talking about the world's draft, I was not relying on catchy PT.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did try initially, in my research, just say, hey, Cheshwee T, can you give me a breakdown of the world's first round drafts and more?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they had guys on there that I knew were not on the Oreos, they were not drafted by the Oreos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then I went to baseball reference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they lie on there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to believe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm trying to find the right number now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like June was the toughest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These were June was the toughest month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, the tough west coast trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tough schedule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We did well against the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I... That gets me some hope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, if you look at what's been wrong, I mean, we've had, we had one all star, representative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have the arrangement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have no one else, no one is crying sour grapes that we didn't get another one in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that sounds about right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, we didn't have guys that deserve it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so you could go down the board, right, I would if you're going to get players great, right, if you want to play the, if you want to go through the orals kind of roster and get them great offensively, you to pee the lawn cell out to give them a B.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At the Ruchman, I'll get an A, Gunner Henderson, a C, Taylor Ward, maybe a B plus, I mean, really hasn't been there with the power numbers, sending a basalio, probably a B plus, Colton Cowzer, D, to vars, the D, Jackson Holiday, a D, a D, a D, a D, a D, a C, a D, a D,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Kobe Mayo, maybe a sea just because he hits a really long home runs that are fun to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I feel like it's, and I don't know if this is on a lies, if this is on an Aberner's is on the hitting coach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but it just seems like All of these players are not living up to their potential offensively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a problem when your best offensive player is Pete Alonzo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your second best offensive player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at offensive war on fan graphs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know the numbers, who's number two on this team in offensive war?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would think Adley, he's number four, it's Blaze Alexander, okay, but that's a, that's a numbers game where he doesn't play as many games, also right, I mean, Blaze has played in 82 games, okay, never mind, Adley's played in 65, yeah, so it's partly a numbers game, maybe, all right, so yes, so there, that goes back to where we started the podcast, 40 minutes ago, that Blaze being out is really going to hurt this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's at what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Six weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But also like, even if Blaze having an elite year should not be the second best offense to play on your team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, when none of your prospects are up there, it's completely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The gunner was up there of Jackson Holiday was up there, Jordan West broke up there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would be happy with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it should be Ward and Ruchman and Basalo and Gunner and Holiday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm optimistic that Gunner Henderson is too good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, but we saw this happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had the same conversation with Adley at least too good for it to stink for another half of the year and he did Yeah, he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did for the entire season last time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say gunners too good to to stink this much, but My I've confidence that gunners gonna turn around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've confidence that Jack's not like like I think all these players are gonna have better second half than first half I think they have to

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just the statistics of the type of players they are, it has to balance out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mayo, oh, I think they're all going to have better second half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's part of my belief.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's being a fool, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, and you know what, when I come in with negativity, it's because I'm trying to protect myself from being that fool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I do believe them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I watched every game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've watched every game in the first half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This team did not deserve my attention for every game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They disappointed us way too much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I mean, I can't believe I just can't wrap my head around the Gunner Henderson's a 220 hitter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't buy that holiday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know he's young, but that he's a 210 hitter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's Gunner strikeout rate?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because, beginning of the season, Gunner was swinging for that long ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted he adjusted his swing for that Aaron Judge style launch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I see that would have been that would have been nice if it worked and if it led to a bunch of fly balls flyouts but also more home runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to tell you it's k percentage because the stats are going to get away in the way you're feeling the game and I don't like when that happens to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you serious?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is not, he does not have a bad strike.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Personally, it's not good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's 20, he strikes out 22% of the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really high for Gunner Henderson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but can I tell you who's higher than him?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Clotent Calsar is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Jackson holiday is I'll give you a list right here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dylan beavers Yeah, Various on zo basalo holiday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh kneel cows are mayo all apart of eight guys all of higher strike I wits in gunner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's a problem That's a huge problem Yeah And for gunner two I would have to compress out of the years the walk rain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's way down to he's only walking 7% of the time

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that seems low.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, encouraging news, holidays of walking 14% of the time, and he seemed to especially the end of the end of the, at the end of the, and in July there, you can on based a bunch and walking a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that could get it for that walk way to matter the guys around you have to hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to be able to move around the bases once you get on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're starting to see that, we started to see that with the Orioles in June.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully we can continue that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you watch the home on derby or the all-star game?

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... i did not watch y'all so i can be honest it just i didn't hold my interest and i did watch most of the homerun derby

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[SPEAKER_01]: I only caught the end of the home on Derby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I watched the highlights.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I never watched the All-Star Game because I see it as like a day off for me for baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then I watched so many games throughout the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were not easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care about the All-Star Game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A compelling reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this All-Star Game, but not have the most electric picture and baseball and Mise Rowski, it didn't have the most exciting player in the game in O'Tani, and it only had one oil on the whole roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for those reasons, I'm out.

44:33.079 --> 44:36.881
[SPEAKER_01]: And even the home on Derby, there was no one that really interests me to pull me in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree, there was no one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a poor lineup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was strongly rooting for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree actually with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did like the new rules for the home on Derby, because it allowed a comeback win like we saw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I liked the pacing up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People say it's going to be too slow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I liked the pacing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the pacing was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do like this idea that you can hit a home run and watch it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it also gives time for my favorite part of the home and to every broadcast is how all the players line up on this, on the felt territory to cheer you on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And watching those long balls gave chances for those camera shots of those guys celebrating and stuff, which was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not like Netflix's coverage of anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: of with dragging out will feral and all this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like any of that, but I thought the Homer and Derby rules weren't good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought it's weird, because I turned it on right when the cover started seven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as there's not, you can't say a ton of stuff about a guy in a bunch of runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they have very bombs on there and there's not much to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's always something she could say about a guy's going up to a Homer on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, even

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[SPEAKER_01]: even the, but even like the camera angles were weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And stuff a lot more of the crowd where I wanna just see the ball fly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like give me that long shot and let me see the ball carry out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, and I think sometimes the coverage to is Don't have to think obviously about the coverage is two things one is sometimes I feel like they've they Poo-poo the competitive the competitive competitiveness of it and think oh these guys just like I just I was just having fun He's there with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got to have fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys want to win the stick in home render.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do like you want to walk or wanted to win they do Like he was trying to win Well, and so part of that is more competitive than I think that they want to even

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, he made more money than his time-not-it-in-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract-for-the-tari-contract

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Fox pre-game stuff now the Oscar game and the Philadelphia vibes along with maybe the America 250 stuff and I'm just in that headspace that it just killed everything with the pre-game stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and live out the base by I know Cammy we weren't coming here as an Oscar game, but 250 haven't had Philadelphia was perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The line-up cards has the declaration and independence was fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The tribute to Sandlot with the beautiful song playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't watch America the beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they did a great tribute of Ray Charles playing America the beautiful as like a video and then they did the they did had fireworks going off while kids were riding and they were showing kids riding like bikes in the in the neighborhoods and stuff like going to play Sand Laugh ball and then they all burst into the outfield wall and come into the stadium and it's which.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which when I hear all this stuff and all this fuss about don't touch the grass when you do like a stadium tour or anything and they're riding bicycles down into the center field and fill it off you know good for that crown screw because it may it looked beautiful with the fireworks going off and then the the kids went lined up with different players so you saw like Mike Trout standing with a guy a kid that was like and it seemed like he was given like the

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you tell me that the all the intro stuff was way better than the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because again, it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And way better than the SP's start with the banana's dance moves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even know the SP's were still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't watch them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just saw the opening number was the bananas dancing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, all you need to know about the quality of the All-Star game is A, the strikeout numbers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then B, the MVP was a guy who had an RBI single in the first inning on that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's kind of what we need about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the one other thing was to have a home in Derby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we just, like, I hate AI and I hate how AI is taking over the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But since we have it,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we just do Chris Burman's, can we just have a back back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, you know, right of all these other announcers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we just do that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, with the announcers were horrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I want for the home on Derby?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want no announcers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want just a sound of the crash of the bat and the crowd cheering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I need.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the sideline cameras to hear the other players talk and cheer on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need no announcer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I know what's happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know the balls going either gonna be a home one or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need the announcer to tell me that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I also need a scoreboard on the stupid screen in the corner so I can tell who's winning and how far he's down and all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And not just that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was that Kevin Brown did the alternate to one, like the one for nerds?

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[SPEAKER_00]: then one for nerds or I'm fine with one for nerds like why there should be options in this in this world like I can do I can watch a football game and options to turn on fantasy stats or whatever in the corner yeah how am I going to turn on turn on X of the last year in launch angle

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[SPEAKER_01]: even even majorly baseball I can go into the MLB app and choose if I want to what my audio wants to be if I want to be the radio or which team or which and which city which station I like I have different options we can do different angles and different things to appear in my television.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me more control.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't make me watch an information for Netflix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What guys are swinging bats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And don't put stupid little feral up there to say, are you ready to watch balls go high and long?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's an embarrassment and it's making fun of baseball fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and also it's making a little bit fun of a little feral.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a good look for a feral either, which it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, baseball fans turned on him, but he wrote that script.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably his own lines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he's being exposed as being not as funny as people think he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, hopefully.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can only hope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, did I miss anything else?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here with all your all start break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about the blaze Alexander injury, Josh Keegan-Aken, also injured, Tommy John Surgery.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How big of a blow is, you know, we have, we have, you know, just a couple lefties out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's one less lefty in the bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that a big blow?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that we'll from out there, who's decent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the lack of a closer is does hurt to I think there's something to a closer with being someone reliable out there where you can hand it off and trust this guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that hurts whether it's a right ear or left ear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would I haven't looked at our do we have any prospects we can bring up to be another left ear in the pen?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just, we had one guy, we brought up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We traded for camp Sanders over the break for cash considerations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what camp Sanders, I think he might be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what he is, but he's a bullpen guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it seems like though my life's pretty good about identifying bullpen arms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, not this could have started, but I don't, I haven't even looked out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to do a quick glance to even see if we have any on the 40 man and I don't think we do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not doing the waiver layer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if it's a lefty issue as much

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully, I don't know what's going on, um, you were running late to the pod.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We, we, we, we don't even get, get into why.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was like, whatever happened to Chris Bassett.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Chris Bassett is, is dealing with the back injury, and he could come back at some point too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's a 15 day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I out, but he's been on it for a while, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think it's one of those kind of wait and see, but he's not pitching yet, but he's hoping the back gets back to his- Is it still on base for August?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think some people have speculated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I never believed it even from the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think this is the shorter thing, I think is put just career in danger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to expect that he could come back in the heat of a,

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[SPEAKER_00]: playoff, push or something, or that you would even want someone coming back from this kind of injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are he's in the heat of a playoff, push?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would be very skeptical.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He threw his first bullpen session in June.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is the lead to update on him?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, let's see, let's take 12 months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Looks like they think he's still going to be back in August.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and Blaze could be back in August, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, so it could be like where I say, hey, we don't have closer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We could get Patisse in August, and that could be a, that could be a difference maker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If, but we get Blaze back, we get Patisse to back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But those are, that's a wall card could be the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Patisse is a huge Jeff from, you know, two, you don't know surgeries in the past two years.

54:43.952 --> 54:45.872
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, that's so you don't know what you've got from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I feel, I feel, I see, I feel better than you do about Tyler Wells back there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Proof me wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to hear you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like title of Wilson's a person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he should have had more of a chance to compete into the rotation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that he makes a sense for a back end of the bullpen, so I get all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I see stuff like that, I see what you're seeing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we need to do do think because I was just thinking about Elias's trades too and off top of my head it seems like most trades he makes he's the winner off like I did that discussion, maybe think of your recent Regas and that's been a mess with the angels and it seems like we won that trade Um, I think I saw Connor Norby was sent back to to to the miners I think people are gonna look back at the Trevor Rogers trade is being good trade

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think people in the back of the Corbin Burns, even though I didn't lead us towards series.

55:53.864 --> 55:56.385
[SPEAKER_00]: People in the back of the Corbin Burns trade, I was being a good thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Deah Hall still injury, ridden career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm curious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think Mike Elias is on the hot seat?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's on the hot seat simply because the team is underperformed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's this pressure of new ownership came in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They said, money's no option, just win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he hasn't done anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't, he got to be the long so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't do anything last season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there is questions about the Michaelis ego of trying to prove it without money when new ownership wants to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they want to win now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm curious, it seems to me it's been so much, he's drafted well, he trades well, he's told the revamp.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

56:54.180 --> 57:03.689
[SPEAKER_00]: And the same basayo is a result of a life is starting the whole, you know, one yard and international signings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get the development.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the same time, yeah, Rubenstein is not getting any younger and I think he wants to win now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This team is not going through another rebuild.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, outside of Rubenstein, we saw in June Calwerp can make a difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where he started going out on the field and working fundamentals with these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was getting more actively involved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: More actively

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[SPEAKER_01]: If there's always talk of making a guy like Cal or Billy of GM, there's always talk about these this ripping away and bringing that back to Baltimore and it makes you wonder at what point do they just say we can do better without him?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're a long way from that point, but if we get to the end of season, we'll re-evaluate seeing, I mean, this is a big season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, if we mess the playoffs, it's a huge question mark, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it then becomes a discussion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we make the playoffs and go out the first round, I don't think it's even a discussion point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you make the playoffs, you keep moving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's what John Harbought did for years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're maybe we should have moved on, but he can't make him the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tom, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why you're obsessed with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tom and Dick the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm obsessed with it now to make the bottom or move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tom and Dick the exact same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll see because the Pittsburgh gets rid of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ravens get rid of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think we're going to miss making the playoffs every year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think so too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think so too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be be careful what you wish for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got it here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're both optimistic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're a little more cautious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The optimistic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm optimistic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm hesitant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm scared.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the wide open American league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what has to be hope is mediocre.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're finally going to go up and see some games together in a couple weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we have a chance here, I know, and I'm pumped about our trip, but we have a chance when we beat the Red Sox and Astros and Tigers to be a win-win, because if we can make the Astros or Tigers sell off, they're gonna be worse for the second half, which is gonna make our path to the wild card easier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I do think that's a part of this is get through July, so we can some of the space clear up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna go up for the national series and then we're gonna hit the Detroit right after that or the braves you're right with the braves With pretty cool Hawaiian shirts Yeah, very bottom or centric

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to go to the game one time, I'm proud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The stupidity chance I'd rock in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll be rockin' it, I'll

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, we could definitely, because we couldn't record when we were on, uh, we never recorded when we were on vacation and the other banks together, because it was just too difficult with kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and always happens, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, maybe there were a way without kids, I'll pack some little mics and we can see what we can do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We are the fan birds, and we run this town When you step into the army must protect this land We are the fan birds, haven't you heard?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Got their underdogs down, but we'll be crushing the herd And we really don't care what they hate us say We'll be back here from the city to the chest if you pay We are the fan birds, and we run this town Everybody knows you ain't necessary

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we run this town when he's stepin' to the only musk we take this hound You're the man for it, haven't you heard?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Got that underdog stopin' will be crushed in the crib And we really don't care what they hate is said We'll be right in front of the city to the chastle-peak bay You're the man for it, and we run this town Everybody knows we ain't messin' around And we're the man for it