Aug. 20, 2025
Pod 612: Who Are These Guys?

Watching the Baltimore Orioles is fun again, but who are these guys coming out of the bullpen?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Baltimore Sports fans of all ages.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to section three, three, six.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Next generation of Baltimore Sports Talk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm your in Denny Stringhouse, Matt Sproka.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As always, I'm joined by the button lover Josh Roka.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey Matt, this team has been fun this week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And last week too, I feel like the name to name some of these players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you talking to find because, uh, you tell them what the Frank the tank promotion and Frank the tank in the splash zone?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that fine?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you want to talk about Frank the tank?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Am I supposed to be angry about Frank the tank?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I get, I know it's weird if you're with me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know it's a match fan, but guys, the whole Mr Splash is weird.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And before you're doing it, because if Frank the tank comes in, it's gas splasher, the Orioles get featured on Barstool, which is like the biggest name in sports right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why we're doing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, as Barstool still that big anymore.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I assume it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know it is with younger people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that's.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that joining more either?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Aren't the younger people now in the thirties?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you know what it is?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's big with, I think, the, uh, the bro dogs who are dirty and still think they're in college.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Still act like they're in college.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that means.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's, I think that's the bar still demographic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think people think it's because I, like the splash, we understand celebrities can do that, Mr. Splash.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we always thought it was, I always thought it was the quarryles people and he's a met's fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the worst.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, who have, who have they had?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I get that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, Jones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Jones yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, momentarily Rubenstein.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Rubenstein.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who else has done it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you're right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it has always been like, or it'll fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it has just been famous.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But Frank the Tank is also throwing out the first pitch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you have a problem with that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, I don't have a problem with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's weird.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is, I'll give you that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's weird.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I understand why they're doing it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're doing it for the eyeballs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The problem is, normally the problem is normally you would do this because it's going to bring more people to the game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think people go to see Frank the tank?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No one's going to go to see Frank the tank.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to tell the world as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who did it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, yeah, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's true.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you were at this point, Cal Ripkin, he had a dad that was pretty popular too, and a brother.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think we have to deal with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, is that Bill's brother?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Bill's brother.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay, Bill's brother.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I got you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the guy on M.O.B.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Network.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's brother.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's probably the baseball player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, who had that funny baseball card.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't know where.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, we can also get a variety of baseball players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Cal's the overrated baseball player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He just showed up to work.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't actually play good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not enough MPPs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not enough MPPs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not enough MPs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not enough MPs or some of the game here in the year out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, speaking of short stops.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gunner Henderson makes about two to three.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Amazing plays every game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's been fun to watch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the errors have seemed to go away.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Gunner Henderson errors.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there was that we would complain about something was going on where he's now figured it out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, his throws are all on point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no, yeah, he made the April is maybe a little bit rough, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, he is and Ben McDonald says that every broadcast if he's like the best short stop in the game right now and certainly no disagreement at on for me there Well, and I believe this stats at least for the past few months also lead up to where he's in top five and like all the different categories
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it just you were sharing with me before like the Orioles record.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is surprising to me since like June is one of the best records in baseball, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're in like the top five teams in baseball since like May, twenty four since Trevor Rogers came up because I saw the stat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got to talk about Trevor Rogers and his season, but we saw I saw the stat at the same time I saw the stats on Trevor Rogers twelve games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's pretty impressive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think a couple weeks ago, we were really depressed, not just about this season, but going forward in this offense and how are we going to fill these holes?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's also kind of sad that we put ourselves in such a big hole that even playing playoff caliber baseball for two months isn't good enough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we can, well, Josh, and we knew part of it is, and we haven't really seen this yet, but part of it is we knew we'd be better in August, September.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, healthy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we haven't even seen like, Braddish and Wells.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what was Braddish Wells was supposed to be what pushes us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now here we are.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I guess, how do you feel about this team right now?
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[SPEAKER_03]: When they win games like they did with the Red Sox, where the first game was pretty dominant.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks to Trevor Rogers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then game two to see them, the bullpen blow it, but to see the offense come back and win.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's like giving me confidence about this team again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I feel stupid because I know their playoff chances went from zero to point two in the past week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're poor two people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, well, for the first time in months, we passed someone in the stand-ins as we passed the twins in the wildcard stand-ins.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I know we're way out of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He just up next.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's like one thing at a time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this team seems to be having fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It seems like there's a vibe in this clubhouse right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know winning fixes a lot of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it seems like what's causing the winning?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like there's
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[SPEAKER_02]: a couple of things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One is a new load to Trevor Rogers, not just Trevor Rogers, Josh in the month of August.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is not the first week in August.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're at August, twenty of now are pitching.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is starting to relieve everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pitching is second in all the baseball within the air of the three.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that includes our frustrating bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that includes Kano back there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so the pitching has been amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Specifics of the starting pitching.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like every day someone is pitching lights out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that is on the one hand that's super encouraging.
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[SPEAKER_02]: On the other hand, if you're a Micolious, and again, I'm not even thinking about this here in the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That point too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm watching that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm paying attention to the angels.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to keep them moving up in the sandings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But thinking about next year,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And my, and my thought is like, how does this change?
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[SPEAKER_02]: How Michaelized approaches the, the off run next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Someone was laying out for, for me, a playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, a next year, a rotation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And a month ago, I would have said, we need to sign at least two top of the patient arms.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, if you lay out a rotation of Rogers and Braddish, I feel like that, I got my one and two already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the way Cramer is, well, maybe you extensive Ghana and maybe Brandon Young,
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[SPEAKER_02]: has configured this thing out, because it's got good enough stuff as proven by almost pitching a perfect game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I've said, well, wait, and that doesn't even include pobitch on the left.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, just being fooled by three weeks of baseball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I both are correct.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I think we still need a veteran arm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because we don't say that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I hate that so much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You sound like Michael Lies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You want to be Charlie Morton?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't want to give you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_03]: If we don't sign in anyone, he's proven enough to get the opening day start with this season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't want to go in the next season with it all riding on Trevor Rogers because he hasn't proven it in multiple seasons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want a proven veteran that can be in this rotation because you also gotta keep in mind the injuries we've had.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's gonna cause an issue.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And right now we have the depth going in the next year because you also didn't mention Grace Rodriguez and Tyler Wells.
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[SPEAKER_03]: as they rehabbing it back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: True.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we have some depth, but if we can put a, a picture up there that we're confident with, even a Zack, Zack effluent, I'm not opposed to even a resigning Zack effluent, but I want someone better.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to someone, I want you to impress me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want a Corbin Burns, something like that in this rotation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, not Corbin Burns now, but the, and the top arms in this offseason are, I mean, Dylan Seas, Zach Allen, Frember Vadez.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's the crew of the crap right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, give me one of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What, what, what, one of those three would be amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if we can't get one of those three, then I think,
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[SPEAKER_02]: So looking at that next tier or we're going to look at have to look at the trade route and adding someone via trade, but I needed someone to slot in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They could slot in there with with Rogers, Brad is and another guy like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and what we need to look at is all right, June July, August went well for the team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What went wrong in April and May?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think you can look at pitch in and I think you can look at injuries.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think pitching, you can address with a trade or a sign in for agent sign and you can address pitching in the offseason.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think you need to look at these injury thing and is there anything we can do or did we just have really bad luck this year?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Harden again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So many factors there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's hard to know if it's strengthen condition or if it's bad luck or if it's analytics being pushed too hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: or too many pot holes in the camera.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's barking a lot that easily.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you've got to look at that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then you're going to sign it out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to need an outfielder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Josh, this is the other thing has changed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The starting pitching.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll see how this, I mean, I'm curious to see how our pitching does from now to the end of the year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure that will inform what we do in the offseason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I agree no matter what, we need to sign at least one really good arm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The other thing we mentioned in the outlet before the other thing has changed this week is
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dylan Beavers and Sam Wildes-Aio, and something we can say about Sam Wilde and Dylan is, and I mean, I'm sure you know, it says too, it does not look like when Jackson Holiday first came up, and does not look like what has to curse that came up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Both these players, I trust at the plate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Both these players have gotten hits.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I did not like the moving yesterday's game where you pinched hit for Dylan Beavers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I kind of get it lefty righty thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I get the lefty righty thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I trust bevers in these situations.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love the Pintit and Basalo, which clearly worked and got to run in, even with a powerful powerful two foot hit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it just seems like, I remember watching holiday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Every time he came up, he was, oh, oh, and two count.
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[SPEAKER_02]: one of the first like three months is career.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Beaver's his drawing walks are broken the count.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Messiah is really aggressive and seems to even hit it even in its five feet above the strike zone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And both of them just seem like they, they don't seem overmatched at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just been a week, so who knows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the first few days, they, I mean, they get an RBI, I mean, Messiah says RBIs never games he's played in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Beaver's getting on base all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just that, and for me, I always expect it because I've been conditioned to these processes called up in struggle for months at a time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they both came out right away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And about freaking time, we've had a players to do this and I hope it continues.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And when you get good bats in your lineup, it helps everyone in your lineup because of pitch selection and adjustment, who you want to pitch to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think you're seeing that also with you're seeing an immediate impact with Ryan Mountcastle now that he came back healthy and is hitting the ball again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're seeing the whole lineup start to hit the ball because there's no holes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's going to be interesting to watch two of the Mountcastle and Mayo thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you're right about like the line of it's really good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We traded away three of our starters.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A few weeks ago, Senator Mollons, Ramon, Loriano, and what, Ramon, you rise?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, four, Ryan or hern.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, Ryan or hern, of course.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So four guys that were getting regular playing time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're out and yet you look at it a lot of you like, man, this is a good lineup.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, two of those were brought up by rookies, and we knew that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's why that's also why when those trades happen with Latin Cedrico and Lionel Hurn specifically go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we had those discussions of what we have to make room because we got bevers in Bassala.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got to find way to get them into in here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now there's space for them and they're playing well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't think anyone, I mean, there's no one else knocking on the door in terms of position players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's going to be this kind of who we're rolling with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But to your point about the out filter, it still feels like
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[SPEAKER_02]: We could use an elite center filter or move to a corner out filter if we want to do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I still agree, yeah, we need one more out filter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm feeling, and this is also without Tyler O'Neill who I think's the nice, I think he will be a nice addition next year against and maybe for the last this year when every gets back from his body story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We have a team option next year for him, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's a player option.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That was a whole stick around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: unless he feels uncomfortable with this, I mean, it's like once the get rid of this curse a year ago, try with someone else, but I don't think it's going to make more money than what we're going to pay him next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I still think he can be a nice addition, just platoon gets left if he can get past the body sortness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, yeah, I feel like
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[SPEAKER_02]: All of a sudden we have, uh, we have our infield and we can, it's a little bit weird.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's going to happen at first base and capture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mayo and besello and ratchmen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It feels crap, but it also feels like you can, you can, you can, and with DH, you can figure that out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is there any chance?
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[SPEAKER_03]: All this person's day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Any of those guys get traded this off season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you use the most?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, of course.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's the most likely?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking about this last night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you had Ruchman, Bassayo, or Mayo, who's the most likely that three?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're not throwing Mount Castle in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess Mountcast, so, I mean, he, I don't know if other teams want Mountcast, so, but I think, I think it's Adley.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's Adley simply for trade value versus step down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Adley's been struggling, but he still got a high upside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who has more trade value?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that ranked the trade value, Mountcast, so Adley, Mayo, Basayo, how does that rank?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You think for other teams to terms with trade value?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Adley's got the most trade value.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're insane.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who do you think has the most trade value?
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Silo and it's not even close.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But the Silo, we're not trading.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But Silo is a no trade clause.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I was even thinking, but Silo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I asked you, Mario, but Silo, Adley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So okay, but Silo is the most trade value.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but he's not going to be traded.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like to be a fool to trade him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So then who has more trade value?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mount Castle has the least.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we agree there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So then it's mayo or Adley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You think Adley has more trade value than Kobe mayor?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think, yeah, I think Adley has the most trade value of those three.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Mount Castle has more trade value than Mayo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, stupid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not guy says one more year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Adley, male has like, twenty more years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess there is control.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There is control there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Ryan Mac House will cost like, I don't know, it's eight million next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or eight hundred thousand probably.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's, uh, it's Adley Mayo Mount Castle portrayed value.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Adley and Mayo is really close.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you see either of those guys being traded?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just as hard to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to be envisioned.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had to get him traded.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I know, besides I can catch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's hard for me to envision Bessayo as you're every day catcher at this point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As him get more starts over Adley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, aside, it's a big guy too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems just to make a lot of sense of first base.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I like that I he looked good behind the play to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I also like having that flexibility in depth too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If I have to go down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It might be my experience this year with, only, and Jackson, and whoever else was playing catcher this year, who started the season as the backup for Adley.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you remember?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Danchez, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Sanchez.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like to have him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is he still on the team?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's your life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's hurt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like the idea that with Adley and Bessayo.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You've got not only do you have Ketcher one and two, but you've got that flexibility of DH and first base.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or even if you put Bessayo at first base, if something happens to Adley, you can move him behind the plate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And is this year showed us like stuff happens all the time?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: People get banged up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I like keeping them both.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then you look at first base and being crowded with Mayo and Mount Castle and it gets tough, but you've got the DH slot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm curious to see, I maybe pull up Mount Castle splits.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If Mount Castle becomes strictly a platoon lefty guy either at first base or DA, each but only playing as lefties going in the next year and Mayo becomes
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[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe the style becomes more than every day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, it's tricky.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's tricky.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a tricky situation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They got to figure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But you know what, it's not a bad problem to have.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And maybe maybe you do make a move and trade someone to make that decision a little easier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if someone wants Mount Castle, I mean, any of the Orals might take them up on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it would be harder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Mayo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: could, could definitely be traded, but I think it would need to be a really good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Have you seen enough from Mayo yet to feel good about him?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he had that ball, was it yesterday off the, he had, it was like a strikeout.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then he hit the ball as hard as you'll ever see anybody hit the ball off the green monster for a single.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it wasn't even like, I think he barely got the first base at the time the athlete got the ball because it was hit so hard off the wall.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the next time he struck out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For me, I feel like that's that's Mayo, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's he's gone a crush of all and then he's going to strike out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he's Chris Davis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would like to see like if he can just have a better understand the strike zone and walks a more and like replace like I'm okay with the strike outs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, hit the ball hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if we can do a little more kind of Schworber stuff and and get some more walks in there too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, like so far this year in fifty two games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has forty seven strikeouts and fifteen walks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm okay with the strikeouts and I love what I seem in terms of the power.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If we can get the walk numbers up, that OBP up over three hundred.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would feel better about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But, uh, I don't know how to wait and see mode with Kobe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do they experiment any more with Mayo this off season with right field?
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[SPEAKER_03]: In order to alleviate things at first base.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, we talked about it for an outfielder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And certainly, but Kobe has.
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[SPEAKER_02]: become a really very first basement.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's a very good first place.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's put in the work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's still needs to work on that toss to the pitcher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't every time he toss to the pitcher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like it could go anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But to be fair, that two foot throw, that is how hard throw by anyone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He got a moving target.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he needs to maybe get in with Lamar Jackson and figure out how to hit a moving target.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How to lead the pitcher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But
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[SPEAKER_02]: It would seem Josh, this is like they've known this was going to happen, in terms of Bassayo and Mount Cas sort of so you would think that they would.
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[SPEAKER_02]: if they thought Redstone is a real possibility, they would have done it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They would try it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I think about the silo too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know no one's mentioned him in Redfield, but everyone's talked about how athletic the silo is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know he's not fast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He looks like a big for right field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a big player's play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even lose a little bit weight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to speed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I would think that, but maybe like maybe we'll see Kobe Mayo playing Spring Training Redfield.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he has, I mean, he's was a third baseman, so I think he has the arm for it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think, yeah, I also like, after some of the output experiments we put up with with Jackson and and Mayo and even cursed it out there, I would love like to have an afield of beavers, cows are
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then another really good outfielder out there who like knows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that would it's just fly balls in the atmosphere should not be like, oh, I wonder if he's going to get it like we just get out to please.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I saw a lot of open questions and I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious to see how, I mean, Bethalio didn't get to start yesterday, which is kind of interesting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we believe it's because of the lack of hustle.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because he watched that double.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's very good in conspiracy theory stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he did like hit that ball up the green monster two days ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would just watch it and then started running was almost thrown out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he was safe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a little bit more forgivable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If he was thrown out, it would have been unforgettable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's something to do with an ADP.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He caught the night before, so to give him a day off, you're also trying to fit in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But see, I would say you're trying to fit in, but you're trying to fit in Mayo and Mount Castle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Jackson was catching.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no real fit in Alex Jackson, the Lionel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're forgetting the biggest conspiracy of all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: At bats.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They keep us at bats down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it'll be fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it'll be fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it'll be fun with that as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If that's the case then Bieber shouldn't have played either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, yeah, I was just, and maybe they're not expecting Bieber to be a rookie of the or Canada.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I know I think both of them
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[SPEAKER_02]: going in the next season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what the rookie class is, but I would have to imagine they're both basalis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It would have to be one or two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And bevers has to mean the top ten.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say for rookie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would think the opposite to both of the just because if for no other reason, they're going to be playing almost every day presumably next year unless we get stupid with some platoon crap with them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, we were talking about this last night when you went tiktok live and I joined you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and we got there for the late innings and kind of the chaos that was our bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it'd be fun, Josh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now you'll allow me to take a look at some of these bullpen arms.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the guys who were like, every time they come out, we're like who?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, come from.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were like who?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I decided to look at some of their MLB BIOS.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, did you know I never looked at on MLB.com?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You go to the player's name and look at their and click on the BIOS.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not consistent at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like sometimes they talk about their wife and kids, something they talk about like what they're doing at free time, sometimes they have like bizarre grammar, like ellipsises everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's no, and sometimes they're blank, like they have no consistency to these MLB bios.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You mean all that little like view more bio-info?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've never clicked on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you just never know what you're going to get.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like a middle schooler is writing these and they're just so random.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I thought we need to make, they need to make a thirty for thirty about the world's bullpen this year because it is an amalgam of players from
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[SPEAKER_02]: everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I thought we'd go through today, Josh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So M'll be bios of some of these bullpen arms.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I looked up one guy and I have questions based on MLB.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have them all and they're all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I all of these bios raise more questions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who do you want to start with?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's your guy?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's your guy that you have questions with?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can say that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dietrich and yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's one of the best ones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So how do you want to do you want to introduce them?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, as our, I don't know, what is he?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is he our new closer?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what he is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, he didn't close last night.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's just a bullpen guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Settles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go set up, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's been for the Orioles this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He, uh, uh, he's pitched in what nine innings so far.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're a under three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He came as, uh, a trade from the Detroit Tigers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you look at the latest transactions, and I'm sure we're going to get to this in his bio too, his latest transactions, obviously the Orals activated him as a latest transaction.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you go down to January six, twenty twenty five, so this offseason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'm with the Tigers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's, and prior to signing with the Tigers, his next transaction was from twenty twenty one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that four years ago, when he was released by the race,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that is my question that the raise released him in twenty twenty one and then twenty twenty five he signed with the Tigers yeah so from I mean in those are I he's thirty four now so that's like the years like playing age of like twenty nine to thirty three right he was just like not playing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it was drafted in twenty twelve by the Yankees.
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[SPEAKER_03]: in the nineteenth round.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But where was he for five years, four years?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, drive with the Yankees in two thousand twelve.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this guy goes way back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then yeah, his, if you look at his, the buy on MLB, the last update is twenty twenty, where it says released by the Mariners or made twenty seven.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's, and then there's, and then it says, do you know to play in the penipold that year and then was signed by the race?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, do you know where he was for those years?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where he was for those years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In twenty-twenty-two, Dietrich M's played for the... Sadama.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sadama.
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[SPEAKER_03]: C.D.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Lions in Japan's Nippon Professional Baseball League.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So in twenty-twenty-two, he was there and pitched in Japan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, that's, that's ends.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, so I guess ends kind of rebuilt his career in, I know I kind of brought you to a stop there, but he kind of rebuilt his career there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He then signed with the twins, not the Minnesota twins, the LG twins of the KBO, is KBO Korean?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He signed his diamond, twenty twenty three.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So two years with the Lions, then with the twins, and then he came back to America and joined the Tigers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we was traded to us, traded to us for some cash.
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[SPEAKER_03]: While he was in May of twenty twenty two, while he was playing for the Lions, he graduated from Northeastern University through online school.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Good for him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the Genes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the Genes, Genes, Genes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let, let's go to our Closer yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If we can go there to Yoramil Harado,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if we look at him, he's another interesting guy in, uh, if you look at, uh, in, in, twenty, twenty four, he made twenty four relief appearances with Durango.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where's Durango?
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[SPEAKER_02]: See, that's what I'm talking about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like these, uh, the bios in the MLB are not even consistent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't even tell me like what Durango's are or where the Durango's come from, um, or what league they're there even in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's, is it part of the Dominican Republic?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is it one of the leagues over there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I was maybe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then in twenty twenty three, so two years ago, he split seasons between, do you know these teams?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Charleston dirty birds and the stat and island fairy hawks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know those two are they also they play in the Savannah bananas?
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[SPEAKER_03]: They might as well be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They are professional baseball like independent ball.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, is the at least the Charleston dirty birds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And since he was traded to the stat now, Island Fairy Hawks, I assume they are independent ball as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so here's the guy who's been playing independent ball.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Durango is part of the Mexican League.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so he was playing in Mexico.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's our other closer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really picture.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, and he has good, I'll tell you he's got good stats for independent ball, one sixty four ERA, a one twenty nine ERA, and then a two oh five in Mexico.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he had good numbers in these weird leagues.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so if you look at like even in the stats for his mindily career, you know, you can see him playing in the miners in two thousand nineteen and then in twenty twenty one and then there's nothing between twenty one twenty twenty one and twenty twenty five when the world signed them right just like twenty two twenty three it was independent ball twenty four was Mexican ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so just like ends, just not even playing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So in the main story, we talk about who we talk about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We want this big free agent.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe we need to be looking at players outside of Major League Baseball to see where Mike Elias might be looking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, here's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's move on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to a guy who struck out the side with the basic loaded one's most unbelievable experiences you'll ever see Joshua Rico Garcia goes by Rica Garcia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's look at his season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now he's a little bit more traditional.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He played for the Nationals last, the National Marley team last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If that he played this year, he's played for the Yankees and the Metz Marsh recently.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we clanned off waivers in early August, off the Metz.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But do you know who signed him in twenty twenty one?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then in twenty twenty two, put him on their forty man roster.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and took them to Toronto for a game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The world's the Orioles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a big game history for a game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he's if he's a, I guess if I'm on your name for Michael, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He, uh, when he was on the roster for six games with the Orioles in twenty twenty one, put up a four five ERA with two strikeouts through eight innings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, just like ends, who was in drafted two thousand twelve, uh, Garcia's no spring chicken.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was drafted two thousand six team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: aged thirty-one years old, so another guy has been around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But not again, by be around, we don't mean in the majors.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's another guy who, is this, I mean, besides kind of the cup of coffee with Oras before, this is really his first extended opportunity I think in the majors.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Orioles claimed him off waivers on August fifth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The way he pitched yesterday was, I think, the first time I've noticed him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: because so many guys have been coming in and out of this bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's pitched, he's pitched what three games it looks like.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think about more than that, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: The season?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I've pitched, I have it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've pitched four games.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Four.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, sorry, so much more than three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so, but the, I can look at his pitch fifty four innings in his career.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's pitch what nineteen this year and his career fifty four innings over starting two thousand nineteen six years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's an ordinary good nine innings a year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's almost eight games.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, the pitching performance is coming in with the bases loaded and struck out three in a row.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was the heart of the arena.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There was two, three, four.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was the guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good Boston lineup.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It put out like, and I now want that guy to close.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he's the guy who want high pressure situations.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to see what he can do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm intrigued by Garcia simply from that pitching performance yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, another guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this, this is where I'm talking about how the bios get weird.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you go to Corbin Martin, our next believer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He got the win last night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because normally they just say like where their farmer something here's his open and bio.
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[SPEAKER_02]: According to MLB, it said married wife's name is Alyssa dot dot dot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The couple has two children.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Braxton and Sage, dot dot dot, grew up in Hemstead, Texas, approximately fifty miles northwest of downtown Houston, dot dot, dot, dot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What type of bio is this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where's the baseball?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, listen now, until the nineteen forties, the town was the top shipper of watermelons in the United States and still holds an annual watermelon festival in July that draws over five thousand people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You, that's great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's this has to do with Corbin Martin?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's the budget in the bio though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's always, we get to buy a more about hamstered Texas than this is about Corbin Martin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm all for a water mile festival.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why not?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I'd like to know a little bit more about Corbin Martin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know he came from the Brewers, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He came from the Brewers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We, I mean, he's another guy that's had a, I mean, all these did journeymen, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a full pen of journeymen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been around for a while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He actually has played with us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the majority of the season he's been and last year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's been around all season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and last year was a bit more folk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's been a bullpin arm in Norfolk this year and last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not great numbers in Norfolk, but he's been a guy that's bounced around to a bunch of minor league teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and now has ended up with Doritos in their bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many of these guys, and Doros maybe, maybe other teams do this too, but it feels like minor league journeymen is what kind of is filling this bullpen right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And some of that minor league journeymen in the majors and some of them in Mexico and independent baseball, but they're all kind of journeymen from everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of wild.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but because of that, it means you can't count on any of those guys for next year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're all kind of placeholders.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Martin hasn't pitched in the majors.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's his last time in the majors with in twenty twenty two with the diamond backs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's been three years and he's been up in the majors.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so now he's getting his opportunity and he's been he's been up and down to he sets a moment where he looks kind of elite.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's all sets a moment where he looks kind of ugly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's two more guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This guy is
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kate Stroud, he is more of your traditional, like this is how you expect people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: pictures in the bullpen to be on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been around all year, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, and he was drafted by the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a two thousand nineteen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he was worked his way up through the miners from Aberdeen to Bowie to Norfolk this year, kind of working his way up, not elite blow your way numbers, but just kind of steady decent numbers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so he is like a mechanized draft guy that's made it here to the bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's the only, I think he's the only guy that kind of fits that description.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, where did he grow up?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And what type of festivals do they have in his small town of West Virginia?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and so I'm a bio.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what his bio says.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Attended Man's Field Legacy Texas High School.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Another Texas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Enjoy his hunting in the off season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think the guy that runs these bios just really likes Texas?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like this, sometimes it mentions your hobby, like he mentions enjoy hunting the off season, and sometimes it mentions kind of what that three's known for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Each one is a hub.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's you want our last bullpen arm that I mean, there's no reason to talk about Kanoa again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We know those guys, but the last kind of unnamed bullpen guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you even do you even know who I left off this list so far?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know who you left off.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Grant Wolfram.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, of course.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Grant Wolfram.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I should say Wolfram.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was just by the said.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've been there all year, but it's kind of like who?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, his bio says, name is pronounced wolf ram.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nick name is wolfie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is married.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is married.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That wife's name is Abigail.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The couple has a sudden name to bowing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Graduated from Hamilton High School, where he played tennis basketball and football in addition to baseball, attended Central Michigan as a freshman before transferring a Davenport Michigan University for two seasons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Spent a summer, two thousand sixteen playing for the Kalamazoo Growlers in Northwood, sleek.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If an avid fan of the Detroit Lions enjoys fantasy football, golf, pickleball, and boating on Lake Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where this bio guy gets all this information.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just so, and it's worded so weird too, and there's ellipsis everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just so bizarre.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe to AI.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's like whatever they could find.
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[SPEAKER_03]: AI could find on the internet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, that's true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Perhaps that's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so he is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's another guy that came from Milwaukee.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Milwaukee option time at the beginning of the year and we picked him up and then he's kind of been with Norfolk ever since and this is his I mean he's what twenty eight years old and this is his first time in the major so he's getting his first opportunity so
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[SPEAKER_02]: Good for him after kind of being the miners for the past seven years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's getting his first opportunity in the major.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you'd like to see that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's been with, let's see, he's been with several different teams.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Texas and Milwaukee, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I went through the central organizations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's, and that's our movement.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know what, the bullpen is the weakness of this team right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you can see that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But you just start, but we started this show with saying that a pitch and all together, start an end bullpen is second best in the majors at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so something that really helps is, I mean, it felt like early in the season, like every guy was pitching on one day's rest and there was no unrest at, and everyone was pitching it back to back games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, when your starters go consistently six, seven innings, you only have to get through two innings of your bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just makes all the difference in the world how you deploy that and I can rest guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so part of this is two, the starters go longer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think just make sure bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully out of all this stuff, maybe you can find, I mean, I don't expect our bullpen to look like this going in the next year, but maybe you can find whether it's Rico Garcia or Stroud, you find one or two guys that you feel good about to put in next year's bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, maybe yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if Riko Garcia pitches like he did yesterday, put him in there all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, hey, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've also tuned the bullpen a big for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the biggest question marks of next season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: for me, and I think this is huge.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, in terms of the bullpen, but he's the self.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, who's going to be our closer?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but he says health is the biggest question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because that makes all the difference in the world if you have a taste of closing, because right now, as clearly we have no closer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like the quarterback thing where allies, I mean, mentally, in those using different closers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like if you have three or four different closers, it means you don't have a closer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so we want
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[SPEAKER_02]: but he's the back, and I think if you don't have a taste, that's a huge hole.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So hopefully his health is okay, going into next year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's all you can find about to know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or is it anything that's an overwork thing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I mean, he's interesting, because he's not really a strikeout pitcher, even though he looks like he's really good stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's more of a grab ball pitcher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he to me is
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, needs to be more strategically used.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Seventh inning, maybe when you need to ground ball, but I don't like them as certainly not the clothes or I don't like them as an eighth inning guy either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You want them early.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then the six or seventh inning, maybe to get a shot of a jam or something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so yeah, my confidence in cano.
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[SPEAKER_02]: has gone down throughout the year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm not feeling great about him going in the next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to do that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you in the pen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You want him in that Brian Mattish role, like a very small in their role.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if we put you in here, you're on a succeed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But that's not put you in against anyone except for Ortiz.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we got to find, I mean, he's a righty, but we got to find those righty matchups that are really conducive to can now when we need an out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you can just
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[SPEAKER_02]: pitching against anybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We talked, we covered a lot of pitch in real quick before we get out of here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk manager.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Does it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because you know the concern, the concern is that he pitched good enough to keep the job.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He managed good enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that he managed good enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did I say pitched?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We haven't even gone there yet, but the team has definitely turned around with him as manager.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is this one where Michael Eis just says, hey, let's roll with it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or does Michael Eis learn that he'll already made that mistake with Brandon Hyde?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this is a very different situation, Brandon Hyde.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Brandon Hyde, I thought more it was like camp picked by Michael Eis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Michael Eis's hand was forced.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like to us, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Michael Eis's hand was forced to fire.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he ever would even want to fire Hyde.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's probably true.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe so we hired a Hyde in the offseason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we talked about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've been on the bandwagon for like, I feel like for the last decade about Buck Britain being the future manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't think that I don't even think they're looking at that anymore.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All the rumors are someone outside the organization.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And on the surface of it, it makes sense that with a young team, one of the youngest lineups right in all the baseball,
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[SPEAKER_02]: even though we do have a veteran pitching staff in terms of age in terms of bullpen as we went over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But this roster is not going to be predominantly younger players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it would make sense to have a veteran manager who's been there before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to kind of keep things steady, especially one of the things that Ben and Jordan Westberg, I think has come out at kind of this leadership role with some really great quotes the past few weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But one of the question marks has been, and the team has talked about this kind of openly, like the lack of leadership.
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[SPEAKER_02]: without veteran players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And in the past, we have a guy that's like Frazier and a door, and Trenos to kind of fill that veteran presence.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now all in even a hern and mallins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now all those guys are gone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just a bunch of young players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so if the leadership is not going to come naturally from the players, then you certainly need to have a manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: who can who can lead and having an inexperienced guy like Mattelino, leaning up a bunch of inexperienced players, especially when you get the playoffs with no playoff experience and players with very little playoff experience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that what you want?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if Mattelino wins, it keeps on winning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's like that's a strong case.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's where you force your hand.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's that's a resume builder right there before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think I assume what's going to happen in the offseason is is mentally no well doing interview and the interview other guys too and they'll open it up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and, and, and, but you know, Michael, I actually want to get his way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, who Michael, I just wants that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can Masalino, like, go back to Benchcoach.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you do that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or do you feel like that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Which is then undermining the next guy, or do you have to just let him go?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know exactly the logistics.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure you can find another role for him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm curious for Mancellino, it might be like, if he doesn't get the job now, and maybe he feels like he can't climb any higher in this organization.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he might look for the job of the different organization.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure Mancellino will be in baseball somewhere next year, even if it's not with order.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Remember, Brendan Hyde was young, and they put Freddie Gonzalez as his bench coach to give him that veteran leadership.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is there any chance we could get buck show water on that bench?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had long before Buck was brought in this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no road where he is just a bench coach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't see that right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I agree, but it's hard not to talk about an orial manager opening without one buck back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The reason I like Buck's job well, sir, is two reasons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the great interview.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Two, when you have buckshill water in the dugout, it always feels like you have the smartest guy in the room on your side, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like in terms of baseball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To me, there's no one smarter that that that that exist in terms of knowledge of baseball and the rules and everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's buckshill water and he empowered the empowered player leadership.
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[SPEAKER_03]: like he allowed Adam Jones and Nick Markakis and JJ Hardy to be leaders on that team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How much of that is out of Joan seems to be a natural leader, as opposed to maybe what you have when the current team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but that, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yes, but it also has to be a little bit of the coach like allowing that leash and saying, yeah, I'm going to stand back here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You guys got this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: On top of either eye, same level instead of down at your players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: until Mark Trumbo complains about getting pies in your eye.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there goes the pie celebration.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope one day Adam Jones truly talks about that incident.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's too nice of a guy though to throw Trumbo under the bus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, but and mentally no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: his his press conferences are also entertaining because he's super honest probably too honest yes he doesn't have enough of a filter very different from a lie is actually um but and from hide um he doesn't have a filter no that's kind of a more interesting
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's kind of refreshing the honesty and a baseball life or so he knows baseball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not cerebral like like a book show, Walter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He did have the great quote after Brandon Young's almost perfect game saying that for eight innings, we were the best team in baseball or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the moves are head scratching like basket batting second and yesterday's lineup is makes is zero sense in any world and and a lot of people criticize Garcia be a good one Garcia after three strike outs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which right if you had a traditional closer it makes sense, but don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So so there and I feel like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No matter who the manager is, Josh, remember how much heat high took over lineups.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like, oh, with pitching and like any manager's going to take a ton of heat because they can't be perfect all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I don't want to hear anything about Elias making the line up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just not true.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's still not true in him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If it was, it might have been more with Brandon high that's definitely not true now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's true with Brandon high either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think your life might not have left.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Lefty, righty, uh, issue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but even all like the the super platooning isn't happening anymore either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, like it was before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think this is an organizational change of philosophy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just never.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But there's always going to be those decisions to criticize.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I tell you who won't platoon stupidly is book show author.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to roll with his guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm not caring about left.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're ready.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Matchups.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He likes his guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know, and another, I mean, I'm be curious, a lot of names going to be thrown out there, Ryan Flaherty, people love him too, so his names are not there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like Britain's damn, we thrown out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be an interesting kind of decision and discussion where I let's go with that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As we get out of here and close up now, is there any chance that we could interview Frank the tank for the manager job, for the manager job?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, while he's in town being Mr. Splash,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd tell you what, it's not a bad idea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like, because you know, managers have become too kind of sterile and white-washed and... Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, Frank has a little more color, a little weak or throwback.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know what, I don't require my managers to be Oriole fans ahead of time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They can become a fan after they get here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think is that the same with Mr. Splash?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is he going to be wearing Oral's hat as he's doing Mr. Splash?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or will I wear in a Met's hat?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope he's wearing a Met's jersey.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just to upset people even more about our fake mascot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So when the Oral's hit a double or a home run, he is supposed to celebrate with Oral fans as a Met's fan and splash the fans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or is he going to splash and celebrate when the Met's hit a double?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or the Met's in town?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I just assumed or oh no, no, we're not playing the meds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If it was the meds in town, I would have a problem with that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but that's a stupid PR movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a real stupid PR.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get out of here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got stuff to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got a meetman coming up in four minutes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is weirdly an exciting time to be found in the world again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought I was like, God, it was an instant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I must be going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The fan birds and we run this town When you step into the only ones who take this hand You're the fan birds, haven't you heard?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got their underdogs down, but we'll be crushing the crew And we really don't care what they hate and say We'll be back here from the city to the chance of you pay You're the fan birds and we run this town Everybody knows you ain't necessary
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Baltimore Sports fans of all ages.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to section three, three, six.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Next generation of Baltimore Sports Talk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm your in Denny Stringhouse, Matt Sproka.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As always, I'm joined by the button lover Josh Roka.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey Matt, this team has been fun this week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And last week too, I feel like the name to name some of these players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you talking to find because, uh, you tell them what the Frank the tank promotion and Frank the tank in the splash zone?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that fine?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you want to talk about Frank the tank?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Am I supposed to be angry about Frank the tank?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I get, I know it's weird if you're with me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know it's a match fan, but guys, the whole Mr Splash is weird.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And before you're doing it, because if Frank the tank comes in, it's gas splasher, the Orioles get featured on Barstool, which is like the biggest name in sports right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why we're doing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, as Barstool still that big anymore.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I assume it is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know it is with younger people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that's.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that joining more either?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Aren't the younger people now in the thirties?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you know what it is?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's big with, I think, the, uh, the bro dogs who are dirty and still think they're in college.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Still act like they're in college.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that means.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's, I think that's the bar still demographic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think people think it's because I, like the splash, we understand celebrities can do that, Mr. Splash.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we always thought it was, I always thought it was the quarryles people and he's a met's fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the worst.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, who have, who have they had?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I get that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, Jones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Jones yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, momentarily Rubenstein.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Rubenstein.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who else has done it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you're right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it has always been like, or it'll fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it has just been famous.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But Frank the Tank is also throwing out the first pitch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you have a problem with that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, I don't have a problem with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's weird.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is, I'll give you that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's weird.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I understand why they're doing it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They're doing it for the eyeballs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The problem is, normally the problem is normally you would do this because it's going to bring more people to the game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think people go to see Frank the tank?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No one's going to go to see Frank the tank.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to tell the world as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who did it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, yeah, okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's true.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If you were at this point, Cal Ripkin, he had a dad that was pretty popular too, and a brother.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think we have to deal with it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, is that Bill's brother?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Bill's brother.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay, Bill's brother.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I got you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the guy on M.O.B.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Network.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's brother.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's probably the baseball player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, who had that funny baseball card.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't know where.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, we can also get a variety of baseball players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Cal's the overrated baseball player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He just showed up to work.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't actually play good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not enough MPPs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not enough MPPs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not enough MPs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not enough MPs or some of the game here in the year out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, speaking of short stops.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gunner Henderson makes about two to three.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Amazing plays every game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's been fun to watch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And the errors have seemed to go away.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Gunner Henderson errors.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there was that we would complain about something was going on where he's now figured it out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, his throws are all on point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no, yeah, he made the April is maybe a little bit rough, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, he is and Ben McDonald says that every broadcast if he's like the best short stop in the game right now and certainly no disagreement at on for me there Well, and I believe this stats at least for the past few months also lead up to where he's in top five and like all the different categories
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it just you were sharing with me before like the Orioles record.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is surprising to me since like June is one of the best records in baseball, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're in like the top five teams in baseball since like May, twenty four since Trevor Rogers came up because I saw the stat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got to talk about Trevor Rogers and his season, but we saw I saw the stat at the same time I saw the stats on Trevor Rogers twelve games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's pretty impressive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think a couple weeks ago, we were really depressed, not just about this season, but going forward in this offense and how are we going to fill these holes?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's also kind of sad that we put ourselves in such a big hole that even playing playoff caliber baseball for two months isn't good enough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we can, well, Josh, and we knew part of it is, and we haven't really seen this yet, but part of it is we knew we'd be better in August, September.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, healthy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we haven't even seen like, Braddish and Wells.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what was Braddish Wells was supposed to be what pushes us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now here we are.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I guess, how do you feel about this team right now?
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[SPEAKER_03]: When they win games like they did with the Red Sox, where the first game was pretty dominant.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks to Trevor Rogers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then game two to see them, the bullpen blow it, but to see the offense come back and win.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's like giving me confidence about this team again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I feel stupid because I know their playoff chances went from zero to point two in the past week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're poor two people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, well, for the first time in months, we passed someone in the stand-ins as we passed the twins in the wildcard stand-ins.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I know we're way out of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He just up next.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's like one thing at a time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this team seems to be having fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It seems like there's a vibe in this clubhouse right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know winning fixes a lot of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it seems like what's causing the winning?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like there's
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[SPEAKER_02]: a couple of things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One is a new load to Trevor Rogers, not just Trevor Rogers, Josh in the month of August.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is not the first week in August.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're at August, twenty of now are pitching.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is starting to relieve everything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pitching is second in all the baseball within the air of the three.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that includes our frustrating bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that includes Kano back there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so the pitching has been amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Specifics of the starting pitching.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like every day someone is pitching lights out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that is on the one hand that's super encouraging.
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[SPEAKER_02]: On the other hand, if you're a Micolious, and again, I'm not even thinking about this here in the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That point too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm watching that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm paying attention to the angels.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to keep them moving up in the sandings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But thinking about next year,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And my, and my thought is like, how does this change?
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[SPEAKER_02]: How Michaelized approaches the, the off run next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Someone was laying out for, for me, a playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, a next year, a rotation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And a month ago, I would have said, we need to sign at least two top of the patient arms.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, if you lay out a rotation of Rogers and Braddish, I feel like that, I got my one and two already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the way Cramer is, well, maybe you extensive Ghana and maybe Brandon Young,
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[SPEAKER_02]: has configured this thing out, because it's got good enough stuff as proven by almost pitching a perfect game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I've said, well, wait, and that doesn't even include pobitch on the left.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, just being fooled by three weeks of baseball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I both are correct.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I think we still need a veteran arm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because we don't say that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I hate that so much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You sound like Michael Lies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You want to be Charlie Morton?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't want to give you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_03]: If we don't sign in anyone, he's proven enough to get the opening day start with this season.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't want to go in the next season with it all riding on Trevor Rogers because he hasn't proven it in multiple seasons.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want a proven veteran that can be in this rotation because you also gotta keep in mind the injuries we've had.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's gonna cause an issue.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And right now we have the depth going in the next year because you also didn't mention Grace Rodriguez and Tyler Wells.
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[SPEAKER_03]: as they rehabbing it back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: True.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So we have some depth, but if we can put a, a picture up there that we're confident with, even a Zack, Zack effluent, I'm not opposed to even a resigning Zack effluent, but I want someone better.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to someone, I want you to impress me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want a Corbin Burns, something like that in this rotation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, not Corbin Burns now, but the, and the top arms in this offseason are, I mean, Dylan Seas, Zach Allen, Frember Vadez.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's the crew of the crap right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, give me one of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What, what, what, one of those three would be amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if we can't get one of those three, then I think,
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[SPEAKER_02]: So looking at that next tier or we're going to look at have to look at the trade route and adding someone via trade, but I needed someone to slot in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They could slot in there with with Rogers, Brad is and another guy like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and what we need to look at is all right, June July, August went well for the team.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What went wrong in April and May?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think you can look at pitch in and I think you can look at injuries.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think pitching, you can address with a trade or a sign in for agent sign and you can address pitching in the offseason.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think you need to look at these injury thing and is there anything we can do or did we just have really bad luck this year?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Harden again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So many factors there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's hard to know if it's strengthen condition or if it's bad luck or if it's analytics being pushed too hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: or too many pot holes in the camera.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's barking a lot that easily.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you've got to look at that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then you're going to sign it out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to need an outfielder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Josh, this is the other thing has changed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The starting pitching.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll see how this, I mean, I'm curious to see how our pitching does from now to the end of the year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure that will inform what we do in the offseason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I agree no matter what, we need to sign at least one really good arm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The other thing we mentioned in the outlet before the other thing has changed this week is
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dylan Beavers and Sam Wildes-Aio, and something we can say about Sam Wilde and Dylan is, and I mean, I'm sure you know, it says too, it does not look like when Jackson Holiday first came up, and does not look like what has to curse that came up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Both these players, I trust at the plate.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Both these players have gotten hits.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I did not like the moving yesterday's game where you pinched hit for Dylan Beavers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I kind of get it lefty righty thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I get the lefty righty thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I trust bevers in these situations.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love the Pintit and Basalo, which clearly worked and got to run in, even with a powerful powerful two foot hit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it just seems like, I remember watching holiday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Every time he came up, he was, oh, oh, and two count.
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[SPEAKER_02]: one of the first like three months is career.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Beaver's his drawing walks are broken the count.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Messiah is really aggressive and seems to even hit it even in its five feet above the strike zone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And both of them just seem like they, they don't seem overmatched at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just been a week, so who knows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the first few days, they, I mean, they get an RBI, I mean, Messiah says RBIs never games he's played in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Beaver's getting on base all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just that, and for me, I always expect it because I've been conditioned to these processes called up in struggle for months at a time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they both came out right away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And about freaking time, we've had a players to do this and I hope it continues.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And when you get good bats in your lineup, it helps everyone in your lineup because of pitch selection and adjustment, who you want to pitch to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think you're seeing that also with you're seeing an immediate impact with Ryan Mountcastle now that he came back healthy and is hitting the ball again.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're seeing the whole lineup start to hit the ball because there's no holes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's going to be interesting to watch two of the Mountcastle and Mayo thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you're right about like the line of it's really good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We traded away three of our starters.
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[SPEAKER_03]: A few weeks ago, Senator Mollons, Ramon, Loriano, and what, Ramon, you rise?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, four, Ryan or hern.
13:42.905 --> 13:44.267
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, Ryan or hern, of course.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So four guys that were getting regular playing time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're out and yet you look at it a lot of you like, man, this is a good lineup.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, two of those were brought up by rookies, and we knew that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's why that's also why when those trades happen with Latin Cedrico and Lionel Hurn specifically go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we had those discussions of what we have to make room because we got bevers in Bassala.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We got to find way to get them into in here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now there's space for them and they're playing well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't think anyone, I mean, there's no one else knocking on the door in terms of position players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's going to be this kind of who we're rolling with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But to your point about the out filter, it still feels like
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[SPEAKER_02]: We could use an elite center filter or move to a corner out filter if we want to do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I still agree, yeah, we need one more out filter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm feeling, and this is also without Tyler O'Neill who I think's the nice, I think he will be a nice addition next year against and maybe for the last this year when every gets back from his body story.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We have a team option next year for him, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's a player option.
14:49.484 --> 14:50.485
[SPEAKER_03]: That was a whole stick around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: unless he feels uncomfortable with this, I mean, it's like once the get rid of this curse a year ago, try with someone else, but I don't think it's going to make more money than what we're going to pay him next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I still think he can be a nice addition, just platoon gets left if he can get past the body sortness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, yeah, I feel like
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[SPEAKER_02]: All of a sudden we have, uh, we have our infield and we can, it's a little bit weird.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's going to happen at first base and capture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mayo and besello and ratchmen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It feels crap, but it also feels like you can, you can, you can, and with DH, you can figure that out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is there any chance?
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[SPEAKER_03]: All this person's day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Any of those guys get traded this off season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you use the most?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, of course.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's the most likely?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking about this last night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you had Ruchman, Bassayo, or Mayo, who's the most likely that three?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're not throwing Mount Castle in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess Mountcast, so, I mean, he, I don't know if other teams want Mountcast, so, but I think, I think it's Adley.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's Adley simply for trade value versus step down.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Adley's been struggling, but he still got a high upside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who has more trade value?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that ranked the trade value, Mountcast, so Adley, Mayo, Basayo, how does that rank?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You think for other teams to terms with trade value?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Adley's got the most trade value.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're insane.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Who do you think has the most trade value?
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Silo and it's not even close.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But the Silo, we're not trading.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But Silo is a no trade clause.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I was even thinking, but Silo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I asked you, Mario, but Silo, Adley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So okay, but Silo is the most trade value.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but he's not going to be traded.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like to be a fool to trade him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So then who has more trade value?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mount Castle has the least.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we agree there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So then it's mayo or Adley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You think Adley has more trade value than Kobe mayor?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think, yeah, I think Adley has the most trade value of those three.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Mount Castle has more trade value than Mayo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, stupid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not guy says one more year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Adley, male has like, twenty more years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess there is control.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There is control there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Ryan Mac House will cost like, I don't know, it's eight million next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or eight hundred thousand probably.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's, uh, it's Adley Mayo Mount Castle portrayed value.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Adley and Mayo is really close.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you see either of those guys being traded?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just as hard to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to be envisioned.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had to get him traded.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I know, besides I can catch.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's hard for me to envision Bessayo as you're every day catcher at this point.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As him get more starts over Adley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, aside, it's a big guy too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems just to make a lot of sense of first base.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I like that I he looked good behind the play to that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I also like having that flexibility in depth too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If I have to go down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It might be my experience this year with, only, and Jackson, and whoever else was playing catcher this year, who started the season as the backup for Adley.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you remember?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Danchez, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Sanchez.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like to have him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is he still on the team?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's your life.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's hurt.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I like the idea that with Adley and Bessayo.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You've got not only do you have Ketcher one and two, but you've got that flexibility of DH and first base.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or even if you put Bessayo at first base, if something happens to Adley, you can move him behind the plate.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And is this year showed us like stuff happens all the time?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: People get banged up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I like keeping them both.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Then you look at first base and being crowded with Mayo and Mount Castle and it gets tough, but you've got the DH slot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm curious to see, I maybe pull up Mount Castle splits.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If Mount Castle becomes strictly a platoon lefty guy either at first base or DA, each but only playing as lefties going in the next year and Mayo becomes
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[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe the style becomes more than every day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, it's tricky.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's tricky.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a tricky situation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They got to figure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But you know what, it's not a bad problem to have.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And maybe maybe you do make a move and trade someone to make that decision a little easier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if someone wants Mount Castle, I mean, any of the Orals might take them up on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it would be harder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Mayo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: could, could definitely be traded, but I think it would need to be a really good.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Have you seen enough from Mayo yet to feel good about him?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he had that ball, was it yesterday off the, he had, it was like a strikeout.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then he hit the ball as hard as you'll ever see anybody hit the ball off the green monster for a single.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it wasn't even like, I think he barely got the first base at the time the athlete got the ball because it was hit so hard off the wall.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the next time he struck out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For me, I feel like that's that's Mayo, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's he's gone a crush of all and then he's going to strike out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he's Chris Davis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would like to see like if he can just have a better understand the strike zone and walks a more and like replace like I'm okay with the strike outs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, hit the ball hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if we can do a little more kind of Schworber stuff and and get some more walks in there too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, like so far this year in fifty two games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has forty seven strikeouts and fifteen walks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm okay with the strikeouts and I love what I seem in terms of the power.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If we can get the walk numbers up, that OBP up over three hundred.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would feel better about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But, uh, I don't know how to wait and see mode with Kobe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do they experiment any more with Mayo this off season with right field?
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[SPEAKER_03]: In order to alleviate things at first base.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, we talked about it for an outfielder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And certainly, but Kobe has.
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[SPEAKER_02]: become a really very first basement.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's a very good first place.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's put in the work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's still needs to work on that toss to the pitcher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't every time he toss to the pitcher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like it could go anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But to be fair, that two foot throw, that is how hard throw by anyone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He got a moving target.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he needs to maybe get in with Lamar Jackson and figure out how to hit a moving target.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How to lead the pitcher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But
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[SPEAKER_02]: It would seem Josh, this is like they've known this was going to happen, in terms of Bassayo and Mount Cas sort of so you would think that they would.
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[SPEAKER_02]: if they thought Redstone is a real possibility, they would have done it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They would try it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I think about the silo too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know no one's mentioned him in Redfield, but everyone's talked about how athletic the silo is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know he's not fast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He looks like a big for right field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a big player's play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even lose a little bit weight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to speed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I would think that, but maybe like maybe we'll see Kobe Mayo playing Spring Training Redfield.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he has, I mean, he's was a third baseman, so I think he has the arm for it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think, yeah, I also like, after some of the output experiments we put up with with Jackson and and Mayo and even cursed it out there, I would love like to have an afield of beavers, cows are
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then another really good outfielder out there who like knows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that would it's just fly balls in the atmosphere should not be like, oh, I wonder if he's going to get it like we just get out to please.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I saw a lot of open questions and I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious to see how, I mean, Bethalio didn't get to start yesterday, which is kind of interesting.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we believe it's because of the lack of hustle.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because he watched that double.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's very good in conspiracy theory stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he did like hit that ball up the green monster two days ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would just watch it and then started running was almost thrown out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he was safe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a little bit more forgivable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If he was thrown out, it would have been unforgettable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's something to do with an ADP.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He caught the night before, so to give him a day off, you're also trying to fit in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But see, I would say you're trying to fit in, but you're trying to fit in Mayo and Mount Castle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Jackson was catching.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no real fit in Alex Jackson, the Lionel.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're forgetting the biggest conspiracy of all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: At bats.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They keep us at bats down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it'll be fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it'll be fun.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it'll be fun with that as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If that's the case then Bieber shouldn't have played either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, yeah, I was just, and maybe they're not expecting Bieber to be a rookie of the or Canada.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I know I think both of them
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[SPEAKER_02]: going in the next season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what the rookie class is, but I would have to imagine they're both basalis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It would have to be one or two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And bevers has to mean the top ten.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say for rookie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would think the opposite to both of the just because if for no other reason, they're going to be playing almost every day presumably next year unless we get stupid with some platoon crap with them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, we were talking about this last night when you went tiktok live and I joined you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and we got there for the late innings and kind of the chaos that was our bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it'd be fun, Josh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now you'll allow me to take a look at some of these bullpen arms.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the guys who were like, every time they come out, we're like who?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, come from.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were like who?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I decided to look at some of their MLB BIOS.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, did you know I never looked at on MLB.com?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You go to the player's name and look at their and click on the BIOS.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not consistent at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like sometimes they talk about their wife and kids, something they talk about like what they're doing at free time, sometimes they have like bizarre grammar, like ellipsises everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's no, and sometimes they're blank, like they have no consistency to these MLB bios.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You mean all that little like view more bio-info?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've never clicked on that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you just never know what you're going to get.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like a middle schooler is writing these and they're just so random.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I thought we need to make, they need to make a thirty for thirty about the world's bullpen this year because it is an amalgam of players from
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[SPEAKER_02]: everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I thought we'd go through today, Josh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So M'll be bios of some of these bullpen arms.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I looked up one guy and I have questions based on MLB.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have them all and they're all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I all of these bios raise more questions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who do you want to start with?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's your guy?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's your guy that you have questions with?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can say that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Dietrich and yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's one of the best ones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So how do you want to do you want to introduce them?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, as our, I don't know, what is he?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is he our new closer?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what he is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, he didn't close last night.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's just a bullpen guy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Settles.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go set up, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's been for the Orioles this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He, uh, uh, he's pitched in what nine innings so far.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're a under three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He came as, uh, a trade from the Detroit Tigers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you look at the latest transactions, and I'm sure we're going to get to this in his bio too, his latest transactions, obviously the Orals activated him as a latest transaction.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you go down to January six, twenty twenty five, so this offseason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'm with the Tigers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's, and prior to signing with the Tigers, his next transaction was from twenty twenty one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that four years ago, when he was released by the race,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that is my question that the raise released him in twenty twenty one and then twenty twenty five he signed with the Tigers yeah so from I mean in those are I he's thirty four now so that's like the years like playing age of like twenty nine to thirty three right he was just like not playing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it was drafted in twenty twelve by the Yankees.
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[SPEAKER_03]: in the nineteenth round.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But where was he for five years, four years?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, drive with the Yankees in two thousand twelve.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this guy goes way back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then yeah, his, if you look at his, the buy on MLB, the last update is twenty twenty, where it says released by the Mariners or made twenty seven.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's, and then there's, and then it says, do you know to play in the penipold that year and then was signed by the race?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, do you know where he was for those years?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where he was for those years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In twenty-twenty-two, Dietrich M's played for the... Sadama.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sadama.
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[SPEAKER_03]: C.D.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Lions in Japan's Nippon Professional Baseball League.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So in twenty-twenty-two, he was there and pitched in Japan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, that's, that's ends.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, so I guess ends kind of rebuilt his career in, I know I kind of brought you to a stop there, but he kind of rebuilt his career there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He then signed with the twins, not the Minnesota twins, the LG twins of the KBO, is KBO Korean?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He signed his diamond, twenty twenty three.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So two years with the Lions, then with the twins, and then he came back to America and joined the Tigers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we was traded to us, traded to us for some cash.
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[SPEAKER_03]: While he was in May of twenty twenty two, while he was playing for the Lions, he graduated from Northeastern University through online school.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Good for him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the Genes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the Genes, Genes, Genes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let, let's go to our Closer yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If we can go there to Yoramil Harado,
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if we look at him, he's another interesting guy in, uh, if you look at, uh, in, in, twenty, twenty four, he made twenty four relief appearances with Durango.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where's Durango?
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[SPEAKER_02]: See, that's what I'm talking about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like these, uh, the bios in the MLB are not even consistent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't even tell me like what Durango's are or where the Durango's come from, um, or what league they're there even in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's, is it part of the Dominican Republic?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is it one of the leagues over there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I was maybe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then in twenty twenty three, so two years ago, he split seasons between, do you know these teams?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Charleston dirty birds and the stat and island fairy hawks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know those two are they also they play in the Savannah bananas?
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[SPEAKER_03]: They might as well be.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They are professional baseball like independent ball.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, is the at least the Charleston dirty birds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And since he was traded to the stat now, Island Fairy Hawks, I assume they are independent ball as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so here's the guy who's been playing independent ball.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Durango is part of the Mexican League.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so he was playing in Mexico.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's our other closer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really picture.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, and he has good, I'll tell you he's got good stats for independent ball, one sixty four ERA, a one twenty nine ERA, and then a two oh five in Mexico.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he had good numbers in these weird leagues.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so if you look at like even in the stats for his mindily career, you know, you can see him playing in the miners in two thousand nineteen and then in twenty twenty one and then there's nothing between twenty one twenty twenty one and twenty twenty five when the world signed them right just like twenty two twenty three it was independent ball twenty four was Mexican ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so just like ends, just not even playing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So in the main story, we talk about who we talk about.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We want this big free agent.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe we need to be looking at players outside of Major League Baseball to see where Mike Elias might be looking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, here's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's move on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to a guy who struck out the side with the basic loaded one's most unbelievable experiences you'll ever see Joshua Rico Garcia goes by Rica Garcia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's look at his season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now he's a little bit more traditional.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He played for the Nationals last, the National Marley team last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If that he played this year, he's played for the Yankees and the Metz Marsh recently.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we clanned off waivers in early August, off the Metz.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But do you know who signed him in twenty twenty one?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then in twenty twenty two, put him on their forty man roster.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and took them to Toronto for a game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The world's the Orioles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a big game history for a game.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So he's if he's a, I guess if I'm on your name for Michael, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He, uh, when he was on the roster for six games with the Orioles in twenty twenty one, put up a four five ERA with two strikeouts through eight innings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, just like ends, who was in drafted two thousand twelve, uh, Garcia's no spring chicken.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was drafted two thousand six team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: aged thirty-one years old, so another guy has been around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But not again, by be around, we don't mean in the majors.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's another guy who, is this, I mean, besides kind of the cup of coffee with Oras before, this is really his first extended opportunity I think in the majors.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Orioles claimed him off waivers on August fifth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: The way he pitched yesterday was, I think, the first time I've noticed him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: because so many guys have been coming in and out of this bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's pitched, he's pitched what three games it looks like.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think about more than that, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: The season?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I've pitched, I have it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've pitched four games.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Four.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, sorry, so much more than three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so, but the, I can look at his pitch fifty four innings in his career.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's pitch what nineteen this year and his career fifty four innings over starting two thousand nineteen six years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's an ordinary good nine innings a year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's almost eight games.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, the pitching performance is coming in with the bases loaded and struck out three in a row.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was the heart of the arena.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There was two, three, four.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was the guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good Boston lineup.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It put out like, and I now want that guy to close.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he's the guy who want high pressure situations.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to see what he can do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm intrigued by Garcia simply from that pitching performance yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, another guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this, this is where I'm talking about how the bios get weird.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you go to Corbin Martin, our next believer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He got the win last night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because normally they just say like where their farmer something here's his open and bio.
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[SPEAKER_02]: According to MLB, it said married wife's name is Alyssa dot dot dot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The couple has two children.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Braxton and Sage, dot dot dot, grew up in Hemstead, Texas, approximately fifty miles northwest of downtown Houston, dot dot, dot, dot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What type of bio is this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where's the baseball?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, listen now, until the nineteen forties, the town was the top shipper of watermelons in the United States and still holds an annual watermelon festival in July that draws over five thousand people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You, that's great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's this has to do with Corbin Martin?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's the budget in the bio though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's always, we get to buy a more about hamstered Texas than this is about Corbin Martin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm all for a water mile festival.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Why not?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I'd like to know a little bit more about Corbin Martin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know he came from the Brewers, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He came from the Brewers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We, I mean, he's another guy that's had a, I mean, all these did journeymen, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a full pen of journeymen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been around for a while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He actually has played with us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the majority of the season he's been and last year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's been around all season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and last year was a bit more folk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's been a bullpin arm in Norfolk this year and last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not great numbers in Norfolk, but he's been a guy that's bounced around to a bunch of minor league teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and now has ended up with Doritos in their bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many of these guys, and Doros maybe, maybe other teams do this too, but it feels like minor league journeymen is what kind of is filling this bullpen right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And some of that minor league journeymen in the majors and some of them in Mexico and independent baseball, but they're all kind of journeymen from everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of wild.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but because of that, it means you can't count on any of those guys for next year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're all kind of placeholders.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Martin hasn't pitched in the majors.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's his last time in the majors with in twenty twenty two with the diamond backs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's been three years and he's been up in the majors.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so now he's getting his opportunity and he's been he's been up and down to he sets a moment where he looks kind of elite.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's all sets a moment where he looks kind of ugly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's two more guys.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This guy is
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kate Stroud, he is more of your traditional, like this is how you expect people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: pictures in the bullpen to be on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been around all year, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, and he was drafted by the world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a two thousand nineteen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he was worked his way up through the miners from Aberdeen to Bowie to Norfolk this year, kind of working his way up, not elite blow your way numbers, but just kind of steady decent numbers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so he is like a mechanized draft guy that's made it here to the bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's the only, I think he's the only guy that kind of fits that description.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, where did he grow up?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And what type of festivals do they have in his small town of West Virginia?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and so I'm a bio.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what his bio says.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Attended Man's Field Legacy Texas High School.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Another Texas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Enjoy his hunting in the off season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think the guy that runs these bios just really likes Texas?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like this, sometimes it mentions your hobby, like he mentions enjoy hunting the off season, and sometimes it mentions kind of what that three's known for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Each one is a hub.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's you want our last bullpen arm that I mean, there's no reason to talk about Kanoa again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We know those guys, but the last kind of unnamed bullpen guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you even do you even know who I left off this list so far?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know who you left off.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Grant Wolfram.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, of course.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Grant Wolfram.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I should say Wolfram.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was just by the said.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've been there all year, but it's kind of like who?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, his bio says, name is pronounced wolf ram.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nick name is wolfie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is married.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is married.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That wife's name is Abigail.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The couple has a sudden name to bowing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Graduated from Hamilton High School, where he played tennis basketball and football in addition to baseball, attended Central Michigan as a freshman before transferring a Davenport Michigan University for two seasons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Spent a summer, two thousand sixteen playing for the Kalamazoo Growlers in Northwood, sleek.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If an avid fan of the Detroit Lions enjoys fantasy football, golf, pickleball, and boating on Lake Michigan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where this bio guy gets all this information.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just so, and it's worded so weird too, and there's ellipsis everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just so bizarre.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe to AI.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's like whatever they could find.
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[SPEAKER_03]: AI could find on the internet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, that's true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Perhaps that's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so he is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's another guy that came from Milwaukee.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Milwaukee option time at the beginning of the year and we picked him up and then he's kind of been with Norfolk ever since and this is his I mean he's what twenty eight years old and this is his first time in the major so he's getting his first opportunity so
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[SPEAKER_02]: Good for him after kind of being the miners for the past seven years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's getting his first opportunity in the major.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you'd like to see that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's been with, let's see, he's been with several different teams.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Texas and Milwaukee, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I went through the central organizations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's, and that's our movement.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know what, the bullpen is the weakness of this team right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And you can see that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But you just start, but we started this show with saying that a pitch and all together, start an end bullpen is second best in the majors at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so something that really helps is, I mean, it felt like early in the season, like every guy was pitching on one day's rest and there was no unrest at, and everyone was pitching it back to back games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, when your starters go consistently six, seven innings, you only have to get through two innings of your bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just makes all the difference in the world how you deploy that and I can rest guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so part of this is two, the starters go longer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think just make sure bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully out of all this stuff, maybe you can find, I mean, I don't expect our bullpen to look like this going in the next year, but maybe you can find whether it's Rico Garcia or Stroud, you find one or two guys that you feel good about to put in next year's bullpen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, maybe yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if Riko Garcia pitches like he did yesterday, put him in there all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, hey, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've also tuned the bullpen a big for me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the biggest question marks of next season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: for me, and I think this is huge.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, in terms of the bullpen, but he's the self.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, who's going to be our closer?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but he says health is the biggest question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because that makes all the difference in the world if you have a taste of closing, because right now, as clearly we have no closer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like the quarterback thing where allies, I mean, mentally, in those using different closers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like if you have three or four different closers, it means you don't have a closer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so we want
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[SPEAKER_02]: but he's the back, and I think if you don't have a taste, that's a huge hole.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So hopefully his health is okay, going into next year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's all you can find about to know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or is it anything that's an overwork thing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I mean, he's interesting, because he's not really a strikeout pitcher, even though he looks like he's really good stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's more of a grab ball pitcher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he to me is
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, needs to be more strategically used.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Seventh inning, maybe when you need to ground ball, but I don't like them as certainly not the clothes or I don't like them as an eighth inning guy either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You want them early.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then the six or seventh inning, maybe to get a shot of a jam or something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so yeah, my confidence in cano.
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[SPEAKER_02]: has gone down throughout the year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm not feeling great about him going in the next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to do that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you in the pen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You want him in that Brian Mattish role, like a very small in their role.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if we put you in here, you're on a succeed.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But that's not put you in against anyone except for Ortiz.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we got to find, I mean, he's a righty, but we got to find those righty matchups that are really conducive to can now when we need an out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you can just
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[SPEAKER_02]: pitching against anybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We talked, we covered a lot of pitch in real quick before we get out of here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk manager.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Does it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because you know the concern, the concern is that he pitched good enough to keep the job.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He managed good enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that he managed good enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Did I say pitched?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We haven't even gone there yet, but the team has definitely turned around with him as manager.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is this one where Michael Eis just says, hey, let's roll with it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or does Michael Eis learn that he'll already made that mistake with Brandon Hyde?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this is a very different situation, Brandon Hyde.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Brandon Hyde, I thought more it was like camp picked by Michael Eis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Michael Eis's hand was forced.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like to us, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Michael Eis's hand was forced to fire.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he ever would even want to fire Hyde.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's probably true.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe so we hired a Hyde in the offseason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we talked about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've been on the bandwagon for like, I feel like for the last decade about Buck Britain being the future manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't think that I don't even think they're looking at that anymore.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All the rumors are someone outside the organization.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And on the surface of it, it makes sense that with a young team, one of the youngest lineups right in all the baseball,
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[SPEAKER_02]: even though we do have a veteran pitching staff in terms of age in terms of bullpen as we went over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But this roster is not going to be predominantly younger players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it would make sense to have a veteran manager who's been there before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to kind of keep things steady, especially one of the things that Ben and Jordan Westberg, I think has come out at kind of this leadership role with some really great quotes the past few weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But one of the question marks has been, and the team has talked about this kind of openly, like the lack of leadership.
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[SPEAKER_02]: without veteran players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And in the past, we have a guy that's like Frazier and a door, and Trenos to kind of fill that veteran presence.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now all in even a hern and mallins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now all those guys are gone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just a bunch of young players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so if the leadership is not going to come naturally from the players, then you certainly need to have a manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: who can who can lead and having an inexperienced guy like Mattelino, leaning up a bunch of inexperienced players, especially when you get the playoffs with no playoff experience and players with very little playoff experience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that what you want?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if Mattelino wins, it keeps on winning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's like that's a strong case.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's where you force your hand.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's that's a resume builder right there before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think I assume what's going to happen in the offseason is is mentally no well doing interview and the interview other guys too and they'll open it up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and, and, and, but you know, Michael, I actually want to get his way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, who Michael, I just wants that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can Masalino, like, go back to Benchcoach.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you do that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or do you feel like that?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Which is then undermining the next guy, or do you have to just let him go?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know exactly the logistics.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure you can find another role for him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm curious for Mancellino, it might be like, if he doesn't get the job now, and maybe he feels like he can't climb any higher in this organization.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he might look for the job of the different organization.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure Mancellino will be in baseball somewhere next year, even if it's not with order.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Remember, Brendan Hyde was young, and they put Freddie Gonzalez as his bench coach to give him that veteran leadership.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is there any chance we could get buck show water on that bench?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had long before Buck was brought in this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no road where he is just a bench coach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't see that right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I agree, but it's hard not to talk about an orial manager opening without one buck back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The reason I like Buck's job well, sir, is two reasons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the great interview.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Two, when you have buckshill water in the dugout, it always feels like you have the smartest guy in the room on your side, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like in terms of baseball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To me, there's no one smarter that that that that exist in terms of knowledge of baseball and the rules and everything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's buckshill water and he empowered the empowered player leadership.
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[SPEAKER_03]: like he allowed Adam Jones and Nick Markakis and JJ Hardy to be leaders on that team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How much of that is out of Joan seems to be a natural leader, as opposed to maybe what you have when the current team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but that, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yes, but it also has to be a little bit of the coach like allowing that leash and saying, yeah, I'm going to stand back here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You guys got this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: On top of either eye, same level instead of down at your players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: until Mark Trumbo complains about getting pies in your eye.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there goes the pie celebration.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope one day Adam Jones truly talks about that incident.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's too nice of a guy though to throw Trumbo under the bus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, but and mentally no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: his his press conferences are also entertaining because he's super honest probably too honest yes he doesn't have enough of a filter very different from a lie is actually um but and from hide um he doesn't have a filter no that's kind of a more interesting
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's kind of refreshing the honesty and a baseball life or so he knows baseball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not cerebral like like a book show, Walter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He did have the great quote after Brandon Young's almost perfect game saying that for eight innings, we were the best team in baseball or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the moves are head scratching like basket batting second and yesterday's lineup is makes is zero sense in any world and and a lot of people criticize Garcia be a good one Garcia after three strike outs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which right if you had a traditional closer it makes sense, but don't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So so there and I feel like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No matter who the manager is, Josh, remember how much heat high took over lineups.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like, oh, with pitching and like any manager's going to take a ton of heat because they can't be perfect all the time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I don't want to hear anything about Elias making the line up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just not true.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's still not true in him.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If it was, it might have been more with Brandon high that's definitely not true now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's true with Brandon high either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think your life might not have left.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Lefty, righty, uh, issue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but even all like the the super platooning isn't happening anymore either.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, like it was before.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Nope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think this is an organizational change of philosophy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just never.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But there's always going to be those decisions to criticize.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I tell you who won't platoon stupidly is book show author.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to roll with his guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm not caring about left.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're ready.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Matchups.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He likes his guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know, and another, I mean, I'm be curious, a lot of names going to be thrown out there, Ryan Flaherty, people love him too, so his names are not there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like Britain's damn, we thrown out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be an interesting kind of decision and discussion where I let's go with that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: As we get out of here and close up now, is there any chance that we could interview Frank the tank for the manager job, for the manager job?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, while he's in town being Mr. Splash,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd tell you what, it's not a bad idea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like, because you know, managers have become too kind of sterile and white-washed and... Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, Frank has a little more color, a little weak or throwback.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know what, I don't require my managers to be Oriole fans ahead of time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They can become a fan after they get here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think is that the same with Mr. Splash?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is he going to be wearing Oral's hat as he's doing Mr. Splash?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or will I wear in a Met's hat?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope he's wearing a Met's jersey.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just to upset people even more about our fake mascot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So when the Oral's hit a double or a home run, he is supposed to celebrate with Oral fans as a Met's fan and splash the fans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or is he going to splash and celebrate when the Met's hit a double?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Or the Met's in town?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I just assumed or oh no, no, we're not playing the meds.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If it was the meds in town, I would have a problem with that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but that's a stupid PR movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a real stupid PR.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get out of here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got stuff to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got a meetman coming up in four minutes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, boys and girls, thanks for listening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you haven't done it yet, what are you waiting for?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go down the podcast and review the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is weirdly an exciting time to be found in the world again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought I was like, God, it was an instant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I must be going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Back in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just pick your outfit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Back in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm about to go sign up for my funny game plan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for listening boys and girls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The fan birds and we run this town When you step into the only ones who take this hand You're the fan birds, haven't you heard?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got their underdogs down, but we'll be crushing the crew And we really don't care what they hate and say We'll be back here from the city to the chance of you pay You're the fan birds and we run this town Everybody knows you ain't necessary