Pod 624 : Meaningless Baseball is still Baseball

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three, six, we on this, so true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, welcome to Birdland.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, bottomer sports fans of all ages.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to section three, three, six.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Next generation of bottomer sports talk.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am your in dealing stirring host to Matt's Roca.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As always, I'm joined by the button number Josh Roca.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Matt, you ready for the World Baseball Classic this weekend?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm actually really looking forward to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think so too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not working.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was considering going down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's going to work out this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems that it's like valuable like baseball that people care about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in Mark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think when they first started several years ago, people really were kind of thinking this thing is this really going to work out during this training.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I was listening to Eva and I was listening to the GM, who was a list to it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was the interview with one of the GMs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And even he was like, you know, I used to think this is bad for my players.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I realized this is really good for the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he was kind of changes my students.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think all the baseballs kind of realized this is good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And isn't what changed is that the major league players kind of excited about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think them caring about it is what then allowed it to progress over the years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and he was, the GM was saying to like the road-based book-class, I guess, as a organization has gotten a lot better with communicating with major league teams in terms of like making sure their pitchers are on the schedule and you know, that their players are being used properly and if they have hitters, that they're getting enough of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think, um, yeah, it's gotten better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do wonder, Doug, Josh, how much longer

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this thing being March, don't you think eventually they're going to move it to July and make a party all star break?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, I hope not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who does that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it hockey?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That does the hockey takes time off for the Olympics, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the NBA takes time off for the Olympics as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I actually think it's after the NBA season because it's, uh, it's a summer Olympics.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think basketball's done, but certainly hockey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you can't do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't do it for baseball because baseball is all about momentum and that transition from July and the August is important for baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, but you're not going to let your best players go get hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in a world-based, well-classic game while you're heading for a playoff run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But don't think it's more likely to get hurt in March when you're all amped up, and you haven't even thrown five in and shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, no, I think it's just as good of a chance, either time, because we all know these players work out year-round.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I'm not so you're not going to make your way down there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What about this, Josh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Have you thought about coming up to Atlanta next week, because The Hawks are doing a special promotional night where they're about this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, it's been the news.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What is it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a strip club night where they're recognizing the magic strip club in Atlanta.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This cultural icon that is the strip club and they're having this whole magic strip club night.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it like a bubble head night?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know the guy a famous rapper is going to go in there, I don't know what they're going to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious to see just out of curiosity standpoint, I might, you know, want to attend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are they doing for the kids?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know it's kind of in some NBA players have come out against this saying that it's kind of hurts our reputation as an NBA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because it does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It made me laugh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, but they're, I mean, they just announced it last week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And happen next week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Magic City.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Magic City.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like Sonic's flip-flop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's solid stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What magic city is?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and I'm not planning on going to that game with them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We went to see the wizards when the wizards were in town.

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[SPEAKER_02]: at least, you know, the team wasn't there was not many players who were able to suit up for the winners or the fourth of my these days, but, uh, so yeah, it's just, it was funny, promotional night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, you want to get people out to the yards?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you know, maybe that's in the worst should consider.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's the, uh, yeah, what do you want to have the, the host of club night at Camden yards?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, we, we, we already have dipped our toes into the wire stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We could go all in with, with some more wire night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I think the wire knight would be fun, but I don't, I don't know how you incorporate that, either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But good on the Hawks, someone's got to try it first.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, pushing the envelope getting getting, you know, fans in the stands, you know, what I'm curious to know how this goes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure I'm curious to see if it's the first one if it will go if they want to shut it down last second and how it goes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So just makes me laugh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know we talked about promotions on here a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's a.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a promotion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they giving away something?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, all they thought was going to have time show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I assume they'll have, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what they have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like a magic city hoodie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they give way of hoodie, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, or they're just selling a magic city hoodie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sometimes you do that special ticket package.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Could be that, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're by the special ticket package.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we got some actual baseball to talk about today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's how it's about being very funny cut.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk to everyone over hype in this guy for for at that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for at bats for home runs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is like the Tyler and Neil open in day run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's a weird run, but don't you think it's odd that like after two home runs or three home runs, they haven't said, we'll give you a second at bat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they asked, they asked, I'll be about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, you know, he's just here from Marley camp.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we have a, he's in the Marley camp.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not on the major side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So no chance of making the team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's just here when we, you know, need an extra body.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's got to continue just to be an extra body.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But well, we'll see, the pressure's on now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like once you get four, I just have to, well, it's home run or nothing at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the Tyler O'Neill treatment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That if Tyler O'Neill does not get a home run on open and day, it's a huge disappointment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Huge disappointment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if he doesn't get injured on game two, also disappointment, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: People have to live up to these high expectations we have of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then it's handicapped interesting because he's been one of our most, I think he was dropped in 2024 first round

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's been a one of our most disappointing prospects.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just been terrible in the miners.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So a hem of all people coming on fire.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You hope he can continue that momentum into his mind of the season, but like a so far as career has kind of been a bit of a dud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to this homeowner was like 470 or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not even like these are like wind blown fluke.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, the ball was crushed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now it's, it goes another mind of the picture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's hard to tell, but in some of our time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, he's he's fighting for a spot at double a now forget about the majors But it and to another example of and there's Plenty examples like this of you know, it's hard to to take away even just one of the stats It's hard to take away because all these situational things you don't know and there's I mean sport bats and you don't know who they're up against and all that stuff

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, but he's still the leader for North Carolina University North Carolina with 65 career her months.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there was a reason he is a power a first round pick and they say super athletic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But again, last year he batted 171 in single eyes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, that's not what we expect from a first round pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, um, bass pitch today, I don't know if you got to see any of that, and he looked pretty good, and it, but it, it's tough because I keep seeing our pitchers look really good, and that doesn't make sense mentally to me because we never have good pitchers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's spring train, and so I can easily convince myself, well, it's because it's they're going against the B squad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's really, it's really hard because I watched, I've watched,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've listened to him and I watch him and it's amazing and so much fun to have baseball on in the background while I'm working, but I don't think any of this means anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like bat and practice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, the best, the exciting part is the is the nine strikeouts and the five innings, like that gets excited, but the less exciting part is the four walks in the nine in the five innings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was I was doing a little bit of a deep dive Josh into these.

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh, zips projections, you know, you have these zips projections and the zips standings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just, you know, because I'm trying to figure out how do the words get to kind of where they're predicted to be at and why am I higher on some of our guys than maybe zips is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you look at the pictures, it's rather right the picture.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like Zip's has this projected, I mean, Zip's has Trevor Rogers projected to have a 3.95 ERA to have just under a 4 ERA and I expect him to have a sub 2.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, maybe not a sub 2, but but certainly like I expect him to have in the low threes, if not sub 3.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do what I have to google this guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cameron Weston, they have pitching a hundred and fourteen in innings, the six most pitched innings on our team, just ahead of Dietrich Enns with a hundred and thirteen inspatched.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dietrich Enns is a bullpen guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not pitching a hundred and thirteen innings, nor is Cameron Weston.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's also all this like, funny business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and you also have to remember that that, that, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did the code.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he clearly doesn't like the Orioles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been very open about not like in the Orioles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I mean, he just put the numbers and they spit him out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He designed what he designed what numbers to measure right, right, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think he's going in and adjusting the numbers just for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying that might have been it might have might be something in the algorithm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's it's a little it leans on certain teams that he prefers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, and he has Chris Bassett is having the second best year in the team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If that's the case, I think we're a little bit in trouble.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he doesn't love Shane Bass, it doesn't like I just mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't love Trevor Rogers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't love Cobb Radish either just from the standpoint special of innings pitched It doesn't happen throwing a lot of innings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's a funky and then the hitting side there's funky and the zips reaction too They really he really doesn't the zips reaction really doesn't like Jackson holiday just was interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was down If you look at something like offensive war or something like that, Jackson holiday was 12

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[SPEAKER_02]: Offensive war, Jack's holiday was just behind Ryan Mount Castle and Kobe Mayo as 12th.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was kind of interesting too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I it doesn't like Holley's bat, but Let's just say it's just fun to look at some of the projections, but yeah the the the pitching

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's fun to see all the strikeouts and my big thing is with pitching and this kind of I feel it with actually the whole team now is every day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just hope that I don't hear any news about injuries.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of where mindset is getting to the spring training right right while we're still on pitch in Tyler Wells pitch again today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looks good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's pitched four games five in and got two in and today eight strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No hits.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's only good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want hit all those spring training.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's outstanding.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's a good sign.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I still Tarr it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're to make a prediction Josh, tire the wells and see part of the opening day roster as a bullpen armor as a starter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's a tough one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really think I really need to serve to be in the rotation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you put the problem is

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't, I don't want Dean Kramer and my pen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd rather have wells in my pen as the guy I can trust coming out of the pen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that wells can do that and be your long man or be your late in and like just throw the ball as hard as you can, guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think herds has chances of making the rotation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if this matters, but he hasn't started any games, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been coming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that doesn't really, you know, matter that much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think he's been used out of bullpen in these my, my, my early games, yeah, but he did last season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did pitch in, he did start four games at the end of the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm saying so far as bringing training, he has not started a game and as Braddish, Cramer, Rodgers, Bassett, they have all started a game, correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's just interesting to note, but Cramer's

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that will give an opening for maybe we get to see what Wells start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But but that's again, it hurts because he hasn't started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been coming out of the bullpen and he's been pitching really well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, be curious to see what how they they do with him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really understand some of these stats.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking at tell the world what, spring training stats?

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, explain this to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's pitch five innings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you looking at tell the world of stats?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It says he has one hit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay, okay, okay, nevermind, I'm in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it said HR, I can't read, but it's HB hit batter, so he's hit one batter, he has not given up a home run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I thought that was under that home run category.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, how does he have a zero year A with a home run?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I mean, pitching five innings, one hit

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, no walks, eight strikeouts, one hit batter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not bad or probably deserve to be hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, it's, I think I really think the, our rotation is gonna be a bright spot this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely optimistic too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really weird to say out loud.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and but zips disagree with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think most of baseball just disagree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So to someone's someone's going to be wrong here about this rotation either out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the question is, what's what's what's more valuable?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The zips mathematical projections based on history or our eye test or our orange kind of glasses that we've seen through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's more reliable?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to be fair,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, which should make us pessimistic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's why it's so weird to be positive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's get to the big news.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So last time we talked, last time we talked, I think Jordan Westburg, you know, there's some oblique thing happening, whatever that means and you know, he's just not gonna, and then it came out where, Matt, Matt, a driver, I'll be was like, no, he's not gonna participate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not participating right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it comes out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the Orioles were being all cagey about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were like not talking about Westburg.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, this is really escalated quickly over the course of a few days from just a little oblique to he could be out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he if he's in danger of dying, but it could be out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like for maybe 10 to 20 years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The way they're talking about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a partially torn UCL in his elbow, in his drill and elbow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so he's getting a PRP injection.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not fair to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm trying to check.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we've seen that story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he's not a pitcher.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because you knew who else had a partial.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You, you, you, you see out there and did the PRP injections?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Patista feels but but but he's to did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he got Tom Jones surgery and then his shoulder was still hurt.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he made never play again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know who else got Pierre.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He got the partial New UCLA and the peer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, that's be real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they're trying to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to push off Tommy John until next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to get through this season and let him get Tommy John in the off season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What either way is going to miss the whole year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How yeah, but see, this is where you're not thinking about the business of baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the business side of baseball, you got to remember that I want to try seven there's not to be baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, there might not be baseball because of the strike all the impending strike news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So why not use that year to be your usually recovery year from Tommy John.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You think there's a ton of guys, so we're just waiting for surgery and team for just putting it off, until the off season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So every kind, get their surgery when based on the break.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about a ton of guys, but I think you're gonna see guys trying to play through this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, and I can take next season off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Westbrook might be the first movement we see of that, but I totally think that might be a trend in baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's to try to play through injury.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I want to talk about this injury and the timeline by the way, Josh is what it's rest for a month and then start throwing or something like that, it's something stupid like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Rest for a month and then just start playing soft hand touch with soft hand catch with your four-year-old after a month of rest, he's been rolled out for all of April.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not even throwing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can't throw a ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think he can throw an April.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can't play anything until April.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he can nothing in March.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he got, when did he get it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: February 20th, this one he got is injection.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, here's where I got the scenario one to two weeks of rest not doing anything three to four weeks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can start like a strengthened program five to six weeks so we're talking about late March here you can start to swing a bat and then seven to eight weeks so well into April here you can start to throw.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, that's case scenario.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're talking may, best case scenario, but like what's that with other players, it's ended in time of John's record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and when can he swing a bat?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, because do you think he can swing without throwing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he can swing without throwing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how you use him because we already are crowded at

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if you can be like, all right, you're playing second pace, but you're gonna just flip the ball with your glove.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we're not gonna turn any double plays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where you can put them on the field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is this what Shoyo Tani had a couple of years ago and then he was just a DH for a year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but we're too busy to, yes, but we're too crowded at DH.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why would we have a DH?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Adly Watchman, Sanway Baselo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're sputting time catching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ryan Mount Castle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ryan Mount Castle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is he still on this team?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Come.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's open a day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so, but he is now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I'd be curious to see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think it would be weird to have him as a D.J.

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[SPEAKER_02]: only take up a spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they would do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess if they knew the offense bad enough, they would.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yes, that'd be an interesting one to have him on because he's not he's not like a superstar hitter elite hitter But he's probably better than whatever you have at the age.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, certainly rather have him to run a maccastle one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got speed like it's not going to slow down him running

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I kind of just say for just, and we can talk about the Kobe Mayo thing in a second, but yeah, how to replace him, but just I just feel terrible for Jordan Westburg, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: He just enjoys every year and it's always not like it's always something different, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's always like got hit by a pitch, it's like always something random and he just seems to be

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[SPEAKER_02]: and it's just really unfortunate because he's such a good player, seems like such a good teammate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we talked about it before when he got hurt last year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he is kind of the engine that makes us go and losing him is just, oh, it's devastating.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel bad for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel bad for myself as a fan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's, I think it's a huge blow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it totally is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's every year he adds up being like one of my favorites.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I always have a multiple prediction because he just, he's a typical baseball player.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he can do anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can put down the button.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can run and he can hit the long ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's an outstanding third baseman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I hate to see this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, and you hate it for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you could hear just in his voice, like he was optimistic, but also realistic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just, I mean, you can imagine being such a good player, your whole career kind of underrated, and then you're putting it together and then just injury.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you start to get it back in an injury.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just he can't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just really frustrating for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And frustrating for us because that leaves a big hole at third base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really does, and so as we look at that hole, we've got to see Kobe male play a third sum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even got to see him play it short this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just to master with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll tell you, that's one thing we can talk about Mayo in a minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But one thing that's been fun for out of spring training this year is seeing that Craig Alburn has is teaching the guys really leaning on that have fun and play baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He brought out the slip and slide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's encouraging trash talking along to each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's teaching the guys to just have fun, which I is exactly what I think we've talked

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but not too much fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you see when we were playing the Netherlands?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you hear about the Peter Lanzo situation?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, what was the Peter Lanzo situation?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this is just so great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You'll love this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Joshua love this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Trevor Roger is pitching.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're down at this point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We got woped pretty good by the Netherlands, which is embarrassing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But we're down at this point, like five to one or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Peter Lanzo does a mound visit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he calls time out and he peed a Lanzo goes to the mound and he calls all the information.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Peter Lanzo is instantly I know that means Peter Lanzo is not taking this game seriously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's holding fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The polar bear goes in there and Trevor Rogers thinks it's first because the interview Trevor Rogers about this, I watched Trevor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was talking about a few things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I must be tipping my pitches and Peter Lanzo and he's going to come and tell him about

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I don't know what the situation is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not so it's not a hidden ball situation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not a hidden ball situation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Peter Lazar goes in there and says to them, he says, guys, I know this is a spring training game, but we need to up our game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to focus.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to start playing better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is, I love it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's a full-long leadership.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Trevor Rogers loved it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, yeah, we were all kind of dragging and then like, he kind of picked us up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so the polar bears already been doing kind of good leadership things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and you've seen it, uh, if you watch any of the spring training games, the cameras have caught him multiple times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sit on the edge of the dugout and talk in the players about the approach or about what's happening on the field and you can see him there as a leader and talking out the swings and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's definitely been noticeable, him out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it felt like a kind of a need, we didn't even fully realize that we needed last year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so speed alarms and that leadership position has been great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When, once the last time the Orioles had a guy that you really looked to as a leader.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've talked, I guess, Adam Jones, maybe Adam Jones as a team leader because we've always talked about, well, at least got a step up these young guys need to step up and we we've tried to bring this personality like maybe a phrase your chinos like, but those role like bench players are platoon guys right different to have a superstar leader on the

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, it's anyway, we're talking about a Kobe mayo thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so Kobe mayo at third base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he's still perfectly fine over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you seen anything have you seen anything to concern you with Kobe at third?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I was watching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw him make some plays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw him do it all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where is your concern about Kobe at third?

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so I was I was I think it I think that's we could be in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Bubble your seat belts because I think it's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think right now with the injuries situation, but it's not just Jordan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's Jack's holiday and the Hammett bone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be out the beginning of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be playing third base in Camden, the arts this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He will be to start the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm telling you, Birdland, strap in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be an absolute disaster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was looking straight back at third base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was looking, I was digging into some of his stats.

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[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, Jordan Westberg has been playing third base for the past three years to the Orioles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know he's had some injuries in there, but for the most part he's been out third baseman.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know how many errors he has in three years, Josh?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd say six.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, 11.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, um, if used with Joe for the, the Kobe Mayo is numbers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So just third base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not talking about because he's played other positions in the minors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just look at third base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He played 48 games there his first year at third base 11 error.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, but that's in the minors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, and that's his first year is he's adjusting 11 errors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The next year 22 played 82 games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: 17 errors 23 played a hundred games 20 errors in in in in a hundred games and then 2024 he only played 68 games there 11 errors and then last year's only played 19 games there in 19 games

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[SPEAKER_02]: Seven errors Josh, if you add up the total of him playing third base and that's not even including by the way in The errors at the other positions just at third base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's made let me see so I said in three years Jordan Westbrook had 11 This guy's had let's see 20 plus 17 37 48 59

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[SPEAKER_02]: 66, plus five, 71 errors at third base in his three year majorly career.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Josh, those are abysmal numbers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Even so far in spring training with that was just it's been training.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's already got two errors in spring training.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Matt, I would look how you to look at Jordan Westburg's minor league stats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's the big guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about many much autos and my legs that's yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm just saying okay When you look at Westburg in 2023 he had He had four errors In 2022 Okay, so four compared to 20.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah In 2022 he had

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[SPEAKER_01]: 26 errors, but I play in what position let's see a second third of short.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to limit it to just short this third.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know how much you played third in the miners though, but yeah, let's see 37 games for errors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then in 2021, he had a total of 12 errors in the infield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just saying maybe just maybe the errors are counted differently in the minors than they are in the majors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they're a little more stickler about that's an error in the minors where we've see it all the time watching baseball where they'll be like, oh, that's out of the his reach.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's not an error.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I always hit hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's not an error.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We see excuses all the time to save guys errors in the majors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I would say a couple of things to that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, one in uh, 15 games and the majors, he has three, three errors and 15 games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's so one error every five games is not going to get it down for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that what that's what we should expect on the right of the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He'll have one error every week if you place third, third every day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, but I think what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What happened, like, I remember this with many machado where people talked about his defense and errors in the miners, and they didn't happen in the majors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think what also happens is the minor league season is a grind and some days you care less than other days and there's not that hyper focus could you not on television and you don't have water and you don't have gunner Henderson to your left.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, I've got a two to your left.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think you can get a little bit lazy, lose focus a little more in the minors than you do in the major.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I could see that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I still think from what we've seen, just to sample size, there is nothing in there that tells me Kobe may or won't be a disaster at third.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, the question is, can it all fence?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think he's batten 500 so far in the spring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If he bats 500 at the regular season, I don't care if he has, you know, 100 errors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, if he plays every day at third base, he will lead the major in errors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel pretty confident saying that, that's not a bull prediction.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just telling you right now, I'll lead the league in errors if he plays every day there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, I think that's gonna be, I think that's being a little harsh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, I mean, what we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think the history tells me he can't play a third base without a bunch of errors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So now, can he make the majority of the routine plays

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[SPEAKER_02]: and can the errors not hurt the team and can his offense be good enough to make up for the errors?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's what we'll find out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think he's the benefit, not just the Jordan Westburg injury.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know we talk about that, but I think the fact that there's two injuries in the infield to start the season is really gonna get Kobe Mayo and extended luck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because blaze can fill one of those spots.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think the world's feel great about plays and Jeremiah Jackson has been to every day, started in filters, so I mean, I mean, and Kobe Mayo Going in the season, we was like, well, where's Kobe gonna play?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's gonna play third base, and right, yeah, and I hope he I hope he gets it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope he figures it out If not, hopefully we'll hit a bunch and then when holiday comes back

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll play with him at D.A.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jen first or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not first because Pete's there, but we'll play with him at D.H. Well, and if you want to, if you kind of just dig into those stats, I will say that for spring training defensively, he was perfect at shortstop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's one in there for one in and I don't even know if the ball was even hit to him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But if, again, this, if you just look at this spring training,

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's played how many how many innings has he's played there 30 has 31 innings and has two errors already so 31 in and in two errors yep yeah so that's that that that that's average in I don't know almost an error a game I guess 0.66 errors again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's not going to be good enough Josh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, of course that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see, we'll see, we'll see, but, but.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's what's been training for two to work on this, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care about his training errors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I care about the right decision errors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So make them all now and figure out how to play a third while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, it's not what was Westburg and Halde out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How else do you feel set up your infield?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to have Mayo at third.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I'm saying it's going along run there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But there's, it's not like he's transitioned from first a third for the first time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's just kept to make the adjustment and I'll be fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've been trying him out at third.

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[SPEAKER_02]: for years now and it hasn't worked out and so why do we think now it's going to work out it's not the only reason this is even happening is because this is an emergency situation where two infielders have been hurt and we just need another body in there and Kobe Mayo can hit so that's but he's going to need a hit I mean if he struggled with all the play and then he hurts you

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who ends up playing it so if Mayo said third gunners stay in it short Alonso's at first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's your second basement?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean things between blaze Xander and then also a Jeremiah Jackson, you know, and I don't but I don't think either of those can play third I think they both can play third you think you think you think they've got the arm for third I think I can play better than Kobe Mayo I bet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kobe's got a good arm He can get the ball over there

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes I'm concerned when you move the second basement that you're gonna get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll get it to first on a balance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean last year, the majority of, uh, let's see, last year, played the Xander played 54 games at third base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's comfortable there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then why haven't we given him a shot there?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's played the most games he's career third.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's where he's played the most.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I mean, I think maybe because the injury to Halley popped up first, and then I mean, certainly Mayo can't play second, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's more right now we did give him what he did play one game for us in spring at third base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think if it doesn't work out with Kobe Mayo, I think that's your next, your next option.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then from there, I guess Jeremiah Jackson becomes your second basement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you really don't want to go in to games that matter with Jeremiah Jackson and Blaze Anderson, Alexander on your, on your, on your lineup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want both of them in the same game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's offensively is not ideal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you paid attention to Adley Wachman this spring?

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[SPEAKER_01]: With a nice turn on for Vasala.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I know Vasala's been getting a lot of work behind the plate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been getting banged up a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's had a set out a couple games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing serious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope, but what they're saying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, I think you know who, I mean, the the zips loves how they recommend that they believe a bounceback is coming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think like that's I've been a joke.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where was the bounce back last year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year I supposed to be the bounce back here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That means, and that's why I lose faith in this guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's because last year was going to be the bounce back year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we didn't see it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because this is now a couple years in a row has been like, we've seen more bad outly than good outly at this point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So then it makes you wonder.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's maybe as bad outly who Adley is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said 17 at bats and he only has four hits.

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[SPEAKER_01]: good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's, um,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'd love to see, I don't know, I don't know, I mean, I'm, I mean, I have the arrangement a lot of people were speculating that he could be traded.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like that's, that's not in the car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're not going to say that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lee, because you're trading him on the downside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but if all these people believe in a bounceback, you're trying to get that bounceback and then figure out things out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what other teams would be doing too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It just like, I mean, it'd be similar trading grace, my regus when we did, right for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, different reasons, but the same reality,

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[SPEAKER_02]: The, I mean, this, this year though feels different for Adley, not just because he's coming off of kind of back to back down years, but it's different because

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he has some significant serious competition.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is like something like, if there was no semi-bassayo, like semi-bassayo did not exist.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the backup went hand-lear, half whoever's backing up there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then we would say whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like ideally we like the upgrade of catcher, but Ali's our guy, he's fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the thing that makes this a big year, Bradley, the only thing really,

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[SPEAKER_02]: is that the size is there, and the size is a catcher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And did you look the solo up in zips?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does they expect him to play in a 122 games?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that sounds right, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't that number sound right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because you're going to ideally catch in DH.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they have him with 25 home runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a solid catcher for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's more than Adly has.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is he going to predict it with?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Ali's never had 25 from runs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, he had what last year would maybe last year as a by example, but even 24, even 23.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At 22 never had 25, 223, he had 19.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Zip's projects have this year to have 19.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he seems like, yeah, that seems right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that would be a good improvement over last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that sounds right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they expect him and they expect a solo to be benched more, but that's pretty close to this name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 1, 22, 133.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty close.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so who's going to put a better offensive steps if they both have the same number of bats?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just got me interested to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've got zipsprojects basalo at a 238 baton average and they've got, uh, let's

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[SPEAKER_01]: at least if 54.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I know the interesting way to look at this is the way this runs created plus and they have Adley at 1116 and Bessai at 1111.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they've got those two guys having a very similar year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which will be interesting because if Bessai always has good as Adley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And why do you carry on both after this year, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because Adley's what 26 now 27, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: The salad is 21 and just signed a long-term extension.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and a cheap deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got them cheap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Adley's gone on what needed an extension.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're going to move out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to move on from Adley if Adley bounces back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, if he bounces back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if he doesn't bounce back, you're kind of stuck with him because no one wants to trade for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but if you bounce his back, you're not keeping both of them because now you have if he bounces back and you've got a guy who was almost as good as basala but older, what's the point?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know what's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about and last year the way they were used but Salah was used But Salah was getting a good amount of plan time at first base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, okay, go go in this season last month The two catches in the problem because Basala will get you know 50 games at first base Right, Salah is getting zero games at first base this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, because he's getting one sixty two over there Yeah, or yeah, does he ever take games off?

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[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't take games off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's an old-school

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, now I bet it's 162, but I bet it's 20DH games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's maybe five DH games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's a DH guy either.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's uh put me in there every day, you know, once he's a two kind of guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'll have to pull it, try to find some that some splits, that's for that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, well, well, well, you pull that out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're paying attention to pointless sprint training stats.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's the tough part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, by the way, before I get to some other uses screen train stats, Josh, we're having another, oh two things I want to say to you, one is Silas has jumped up in his little league age, so now he's playing player pitch and some coach pitch and can I just we haven't any games yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but just three practices and I just tell you right now Josh this is dumb and gonna be a total disaster Oh, because they just walk everyone no one can throw strikes and no one can catch week We don't have anyone on our team who can catch the ball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, consistently and we don't have any We can throw strikes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So what's gonna happen when our picture can't throw strikes and our catcher can catch the ball

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've coached that league, what you do is you end up walking the first base, stealing second base, stealing third base, stealing home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you hit your five run limit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so irritating if you come back to us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't even watch practice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're teasing me too much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why didn't you watch practice?

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[SPEAKER_02]: it's irritating because it's not teaching the kids baseball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not because we were running with a live-battern a picture and the batter would honestly have to wait about maybe 10 to 12 pitches to get one pitch to hit, one hitable pitch and then wait 10 more or 12 more pitches to get one hitable pitch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There needs to be, don't don't some people do this, there needs to be between coach pitch

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think, for some of you, we did not have Coach pitch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had pitcher machine and then went from pitcher machine to kid pitch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so I think we could coach pitch to pitching machine with a catcher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you could run a machine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think pitcher machine with a catcher, I think would be a good step because your catcher is definitely a problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The kids aren't used to wearing the gear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The kids aren't used to catching the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not thrown directly at them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't know how to block.

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[SPEAKER_01]: watch for a lot of the coach yelling for the pitcher to cover home on the wall pit and the kids just all get confused.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just really frustrated in order with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: On the other hand, that's the negative side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: On the good side, Florida's playing and for her first year and she's just turned four and solar softball softball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I said it for weball baseball weball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But this was co-ed Weeball, like before T-ball, but then they message me saying, you know, kind of we need more T-ball players, she's for, you know, we could bump her up to T-ball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, I like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, D-ball softball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So she's bumped up to T-ball softball playing with a bunch of five and six year olds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's a little tiny little girl out there playing amongst giants.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoyed her practice a lot more than size of practice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just say that is she enjoying it loves it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Love good good good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll have to go up and see when her games too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's really fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pete Alonso.

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[SPEAKER_01]: started at first base last year, one hundred and sixty games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had two games is the age.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, see there you go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so the solos not playing for space.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, suddenly you can sort of rhyme outcastle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who we don't have a spot for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think it's going to be an opening roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't see him being on the opening day roster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, oh, hey, Josh, by the way, one more little little

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[SPEAKER_02]: We went through the whole, um, we, we do this every year, the new walk-up songs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought you would appreciate this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And those who picked out silences on this year, silencer you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he just stick with the same song.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, hope.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, anyone is last year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but there's one artist who's totally taken over the playlist or have the songs I know the same guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know who the guy is?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do personal is it for us, Frank.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's for us, Frank Josh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's who it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who is this guy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's totally taken over her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is a, he is a Christian, like rapper, like positive music.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do the one song by and the super popular lemonade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a son like a lemonade song and he's got something else to do a popper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I use it for the middle school church camp every year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I use a bunch of forest rats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's eight year olds are loving this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, forest Frank is great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm glad it's a lovely and happy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He seems, yeah, it seems like a good album to put on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also know he's I also know he's popular in Georgia because he's coming down here for like a concert like next week or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and the tickets sold out like the hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm glad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm up with the modern music.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was like, at least for this one guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who wants a new welcome music?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it was like, four strength, four strength, four strength.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's four strength.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Play his music.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Silas will get into him and one hand next year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll just welcome music.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Peter Lanzo has taken some days off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's our Orioles news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kitcher just hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kitcher's shoulder issues won't be ready for opening day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be ready a few weeks in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, if you know, I always like to do Josh the uh, I always before the show to the prep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do the Orioles, and then I go to Orioles News to see what news item.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I mean, yes, Orioles News, whether they're built in the, the, the, the, the Jumbo Tron is almost done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, you've seen the pictures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it looks outstanding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I look strange.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's about freaking tongue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Orioles should just hold the entire fan base and take that new jumbo tron and the left and right side, just do a Coca-Cola and a bottleizer add the same size as the old ones that were there because it basically is they took the ad space and they just turned it all into the jumbo tron.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they really troll people and just make them billboards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'd say that would be trending and they're building a new like Birdland members entrance area where they where they where they where they used to have the kids store.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that would be trending with some attention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Other Orioles news that are having an exhibition March like 21st or 22nd that'll be the first time the jumbo trones used.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's some news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kirstead still playing really well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He won't mention that when we talked about pre-treating stats before I get distracted.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he said he's the guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that can have a year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They said he's looked really good in bad practice and in on the field, he's hit really well so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just don't ask him what went wrong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he won't talk about last year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, but then the news is stupid not now like the news they they need to do a better job.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I go to Google click news Yeah, and the first thing that pops up Josh is Orill's news proposed blockbuster orill's trade sees bottom or finally part ways out of the arrangement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's stupid AI And here's another one With no this all started when Otani was a free agent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a new news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but where's it from?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, uh, sporting news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's a real article.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's actual article written by someone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, here's one from Bird's Watcher.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How about this for headline?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Chris Bassett already under pressure after oral free training flop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, there's the urge thing as a spring train and flop for a pitcher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a whole bunch of working on something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But why is this in my news feed?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, of course, sports illustrated has a real first round pick continues.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I was bringing with fourth home run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I got you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was straighted is the AI monster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sports illustrated, or no, USA today is the worst for the AI.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, I don't know how many USA today in here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do have another one from Yahoo Sports.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Their headline is Baltimore, or else may have found another gem.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know who they're talking about, Josh, when they say they may have found another gem?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another gem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, blaze Alexander.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, Shane Bass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I side, but I also, yeah, I think Bass is going to be good this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just think they should filter out legitimate news from crap can can Google do that for me and then when I click on the news filter, I don't I don't get the filter out the crap.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I click on news my favorite thing was a Google search.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, my favorite thing was Google news is I can type Oreos and then I name me any like superstar player like I'll type in Oreos Aaron Judge and then I search and it says and it

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, let me try show you a tani Orioles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is, let's see Yankee's beauty Orioles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It all started when show you a tani was a free agent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you would search a tani team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you could get a, find an AI written article for him on every team possible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we gotta wait for the trade deadline deck to get those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Free agency trade deadline is when all that get the clicks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, they seem to clean it up a little bit because the article that when I searched Orioles and Aaron judge, the article is Orioles players achieve perfect home run record to outshine a Lanzo and judge in spring training.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what that article is about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is about Peter Lanzo and Aaron Judge, each got two homeruns during the game, but Vance Honeycutt is who everyone's talking about because he went three for three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't even mention that it was three different games because they don't care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now it's for four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, some of the watch is coming, we got mean, I think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're still watching the same things in spring training.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know we're going to have a couple players leaving here with World Race, but classic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think the, it's got her playing in the World Race, but classic, I know we're feeling the type of last time he's done her, he's on the bench.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not a starter, but he's on the bench for a, for Team USA, Team USA.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Team USA looks pretty stacked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would, I know Japan is always good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they went last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, USA has Paul schemes on the mound.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, and, and school for the school, well, they said just for a pitch one game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but this is, this is the old, this is like playing the, you know, I hope they have Team U.S. Day in MLB the show this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to find it reminds me of RBI baseball when you would choose the American League to get out of stars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it'd be fun to play against the different countries as different countries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Team U.S. A lineup is Bollywood Junior, Bryce Harper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Judge, Paul Schwarber, Alex Brayman, Carl Raleigh, Roman Anthony, Byron Buxden, Rice Thurang.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a ridiculous line-up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't find the little offensive that Bobby Witt gets to start over dinner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's crazy that Emio says never the favorite in this world-based ball class.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you don't need to do the favorite this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what does Vegas, I bet Vegas has you as a favorite.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know I think Japan is one of the most in the DR is always good, but I bet we're rejected to it to be the winners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the first year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are the favorite in the world baseball classic followed by Japan and Dominican Republican Venezuela.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that'll be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When it for a team you'll say, I actually think the team you'll say caps look pretty good this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking of grabbing one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I haven't seen the cap show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I told you, I like the Oreo spring training caps.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I never told them about the caps.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I saw the spring training caps, like, oh, that's kind of a cool cap.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was actually buying it before I was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's my problem with the Oreo caps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's too many.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The spring training cap with the citrus looks pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like then with the citrus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they introduce the Orioles minimalist hats, which is a little square with just the Oriole bird in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, it's all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a kind of thing.

56:18.651 --> 56:20.215
[SPEAKER_01]: But they got two versions.

56:20.313 --> 56:31.673
[SPEAKER_01]: They got a black and orange version that's got the cartoon bird silhouette, and they've got a white and black version that's got the orthologically correct bird and that was cool too.

56:32.033 --> 56:37.663
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah and yesterday they introduced the bat and practice hats.

56:37.643 --> 56:52.446
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and instead of just one baton practice hat, they have them in three different colors, where you can get a white, a black or an orange baton practice hat that has like the silhouette of the bird in like the same color.

56:52.926 --> 56:54.248
[SPEAKER_01]: And that looks pretty cool too.

56:54.529 --> 57:03.803
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, that's kind of cool.

57:05.622 --> 57:09.574
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, see, they got a lot of hats on there on the team store.

57:10.195 --> 57:13.480
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's the bat and practice hat.

57:13.540 --> 57:20.791
[SPEAKER_01]: The bird, it's the oil bird cartoon bird head, but it's in like a gray scale.

57:21.052 --> 57:24.177
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the hat is either black, orange, or white.

57:25.178 --> 57:27.362
[SPEAKER_02]: How about the citrus in the spring training hat?

57:27.802 --> 57:28.503
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

57:28.523 --> 57:30.006
[SPEAKER_02]: What's that happening on the side of the hat?

57:30.506 --> 57:31.969
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that there's like a number over there?

57:32.009 --> 57:32.670
[SPEAKER_02]: What's going on?

57:32.690 --> 57:33.471
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that 26?

57:33.531 --> 57:37.958
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that, it's the floor, which is the coast league 26 logo.

57:38.191 --> 57:39.373
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the golf course logo.

57:39.533 --> 57:42.539
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's on all the golf course team on the side.

57:43.120 --> 57:56.284
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying in the past three weeks the Orioles or majorly baseball has released six new hats that all looked really outstanding.

57:56.399 --> 57:57.100
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's kind of cool.

57:57.120 --> 58:01.447
[SPEAKER_02]: It says Sarah Soda on the bottom of the brim.

58:02.088 --> 58:02.328
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

58:02.368 --> 58:03.110
[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of cool.

58:03.150 --> 58:06.435
[SPEAKER_02]: That I didn't think I've never seen anything on the on the underdog.

58:06.455 --> 58:08.779
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why the the swing in baseball.

58:09.900 --> 58:11.563
[SPEAKER_01]: The swing in oil bird.

58:12.124 --> 58:12.424
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

58:12.444 --> 58:13.266
[SPEAKER_01]: Comes in black.

58:15.609 --> 58:16.190
[SPEAKER_01]: You can get that.

58:16.230 --> 58:16.591
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

58:16.671 --> 58:22.140
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, I just told you about the three bat and practice hats.

58:22.160 --> 58:22.440
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

58:23.450 --> 58:32.103
[SPEAKER_01]: the gray scale, orial birds, swing in the bat, in orange, or the gray square, that's the one on top of us.

58:32.144 --> 58:32.845
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one on top of us.

58:32.865 --> 58:33.786
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the one on top of us.

58:33.806 --> 58:40.737
[SPEAKER_01]: But they also have in black gray scale, but it's the regular real looking real life bird.

58:41.718 --> 58:47.888
[SPEAKER_01]: And those two hats are listed as the 2026 bat and practice alternate hats.

58:49.505 --> 58:54.774
[SPEAKER_01]: So now they've just introduced five different hats for baton practice.

58:56.717 --> 58:59.082
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they want to make some money on hats this year.

58:59.843 --> 59:00.204
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

59:01.305 --> 59:01.666
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

59:02.908 --> 59:04.090
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, yeah, you're right.

59:04.110 --> 59:06.855
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they have the new little, the one with the little oil bird.

59:08.152 --> 59:10.976
[SPEAKER_02]: on, with the black, with the orange background's lines.

59:11.116 --> 59:12.038
[SPEAKER_01]: It's out of control.

59:12.198 --> 59:13.179
[SPEAKER_01]: So I haven't bought any.

59:13.860 --> 59:14.100
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

59:14.181 --> 59:15.843
[SPEAKER_02]: I've also been, I wasn't aware of all that.

59:15.863 --> 59:17.005
[SPEAKER_02]: I just saw the spring training hats.

59:17.846 --> 59:18.487
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, oh, those are cool.

59:18.767 --> 59:22.012
[SPEAKER_01]: No, there's so many new hats that they all look good that I haven't gotten any yet.

59:22.673 --> 59:25.837
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's the other ones that the team store has put out that looks good.

59:25.857 --> 59:29.342
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, if you want to get an oil hat, there's plenty of choices right now.

59:29.903 --> 59:30.143
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

59:30.824 --> 59:36.893
[SPEAKER_01]: Can I, can I tell you, I've been, fooling around a little bit with minor league baseball,

59:37.666 --> 59:41.154
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think you send me that clip, I didn't respond to you guys.

59:41.414 --> 59:42.497
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm working on the podcast.

59:42.537 --> 59:43.659
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to talk about that yet.

59:44.000 --> 59:44.381
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

59:44.401 --> 59:48.690
[SPEAKER_01]: But I want to tell you, I did something pretty cool this past week.

59:48.710 --> 59:49.091
[SPEAKER_01]: What'd you do?

59:50.093 --> 59:53.921
[SPEAKER_01]: I got hired to design through the podcast search warehouse.

59:54.202 --> 59:57.008
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things I do is graphic design as well.

59:56.988 --> 59:59.210
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I got this good.

59:59.230 --> 59:59.911
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, listeners.

59:59.951 --> 01:00:02.313
[SPEAKER_02]: Josh and I haven't talked in a while, so we're just kind of counting on them.

01:00:02.333 --> 01:00:02.794
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's catch up.

01:00:03.375 --> 01:00:04.456
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked to Orioles.

01:00:04.616 --> 01:00:05.997
[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's family stuff.

01:00:06.017 --> 01:00:06.177
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:00:06.438 --> 01:00:08.039
[SPEAKER_01]: So welcome into our family.

01:00:08.820 --> 01:00:09.921
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:00:10.382 --> 01:00:13.745
[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, we've officially booked about the tickets for Detroit.

01:00:13.845 --> 01:00:14.866
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to Detroit.

01:00:14.946 --> 01:00:15.807
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we'll see you there.

01:00:16.288 --> 01:00:16.888
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:00:16.908 --> 01:00:17.489
[SPEAKER_02]: See you there Sam.

01:00:18.030 --> 01:00:18.550
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell my fan.

01:00:18.650 --> 01:00:19.231
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:00:19.251 --> 01:00:20.893
[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't Sam who ran into us in Cleveland?

01:00:21.693 --> 01:00:22.354
[SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't it Sam?

01:00:24.764 --> 01:00:28.289
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, we're being Cleveland and that guy behind was just new us.

01:00:28.670 --> 01:00:29.832
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine.

01:00:29.852 --> 01:00:31.254
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, all right.

01:00:31.274 --> 01:00:35.060
[SPEAKER_01]: So the Lynchburg Hillcats.

01:00:35.801 --> 01:00:36.822
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very familiar.

01:00:36.862 --> 01:00:43.172
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been to many Lynchburg Hillcats games in Lynchburg, Virginia, when I went to college there.

01:00:43.212 --> 01:00:48.099
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, last year they were purchased by a new owner of Cayman and purchased the team.

01:00:48.380 --> 01:00:49.962
[SPEAKER_02]: OK, I actually thought about the Lynchburg Hillcats.

01:00:49.982 --> 01:00:51.124
[SPEAKER_02]: So we can get an answer.

01:00:51.144 --> 01:00:51.445
[SPEAKER_01]: OK, go ahead.

01:00:51.825 --> 01:00:53.708
[SPEAKER_01]: He led them to a championship.

01:00:54.076 --> 01:00:56.399
[SPEAKER_01]: but the team was losing a ton of money.

01:00:57.300 --> 01:01:00.403
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is outrageous, because that's in a growing college town.

01:01:00.423 --> 01:01:01.344
[SPEAKER_01]: It's ridiculous.

01:01:01.684 --> 01:01:07.491
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, and you know what, I went down the wrong path for, because I've got two different stories involved in this team.

01:01:07.891 --> 01:01:08.952
[SPEAKER_01]: Who are they in a fight for?

01:01:08.993 --> 01:01:11.555
[SPEAKER_01]: They are affiliate for the Cleveland Guardians.

01:01:12.076 --> 01:01:12.336
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:01:12.597 --> 01:01:13.117
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.

01:01:13.137 --> 01:01:13.337
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.

01:01:13.518 --> 01:01:14.499
[SPEAKER_01]: Art, guard, guard, guard.

01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:17.842
[SPEAKER_01]: A single A, single A guardians affiliate.

01:01:18.103 --> 01:01:18.463
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:01:18.983 --> 01:01:30.737
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so they got new ownership last year and that guy, uh, led them, I say that, but them, but the owner, uh, got new ownership and they went and they won the Carolina league.

01:01:31.177 --> 01:01:34.241
[SPEAKER_02]: How much does the minor league team costs?

01:01:34.261 --> 01:01:36.564
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think I will find that out for you.

01:01:36.624 --> 01:01:40.689
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, could it doesn't matter that we could maybe at some point or I just dabble into Josh.

01:01:42.591 --> 01:01:44.814
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I, I, it's that beyond our reach.

01:01:45.855 --> 01:01:47.657
[SPEAKER_01]: This year might be the closest I get.

01:01:48.413 --> 01:01:49.454
[SPEAKER_01]: fair fair fair.

01:01:51.016 --> 01:01:55.881
[SPEAKER_01]: So I got to cut because so this guy, I've gotten to know this guy that owns the team.

01:01:56.762 --> 01:02:05.932
[SPEAKER_01]: And because of that, I ended up getting hired to design with graphic design, two billboards that are going in his stadium.

01:02:06.472 --> 01:02:07.053
[SPEAKER_02]: That's cool.

01:02:07.073 --> 01:02:08.154
[SPEAKER_01]: Like to promote the team?

01:02:08.635 --> 01:02:13.780
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no,

01:02:14.131 --> 01:02:19.382
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and one for a sports card sports card memorabilia company.

01:02:19.497 --> 01:02:27.546
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but I've got to design nine foot by 16 foot billboards that are going in the help of this stadium, which is pretty cool.

01:02:27.967 --> 01:02:28.808
[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty cool.

01:02:28.948 --> 01:02:31.250
[SPEAKER_02]: I question the judge with this down on her, but that's still pretty cool.

01:02:31.591 --> 01:02:33.032
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, that did not come through the owner.

01:02:33.213 --> 01:02:34.454
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that came through.

01:02:35.395 --> 01:02:40.481
[SPEAKER_01]: The through the businesses, the businesses, I know the guys that don't need businesses as well.

01:02:41.102 --> 01:02:41.342
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:02:41.362 --> 01:02:48.610
[SPEAKER_01]: And they know that I can do that I do this stuff, so they both hired, one of them hired me and then the other one said, who's doing your billboard?

01:02:48.590 --> 01:02:56.657
[SPEAKER_01]: And I gave him my name so then I got that one too and I made this and I'll tell you what they both look awesome I can't wait to see them in the outfield, which is pretty cool.

01:02:57.058 --> 01:03:03.203
[SPEAKER_02]: Well you've got I've got feedback from the companies from the owner from Yes, companies.

01:03:03.223 --> 01:03:03.323
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:03:03.343 --> 01:03:03.444
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:03:03.464 --> 01:03:03.644
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:03:03.684 --> 01:03:03.864
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:03:04.885 --> 01:03:04.965
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:03:04.985 --> 01:03:16.015
[SPEAKER_01]: Now you lent the Lynchburg Hillcats What they did this offseason and I'll just tell you the other story now is they've rebranded the team They're no longer the Lynchburg Hillcats

01:03:16.417 --> 01:03:18.720
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they are starting this year.

01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:20.943
[SPEAKER_01]: They are the Hill City Hours.

01:03:23.687 --> 01:03:24.087
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:03:24.107 --> 01:03:30.075
[SPEAKER_02]: So I know you're trying to throw shade or judgment, but that's a mouthful to say, the Hill City Hours.

01:03:30.396 --> 01:03:38.406
[SPEAKER_01]: The Hill City Hours, they've got four different mascots of like most of the whole stuff.

01:03:39.588 --> 01:03:41.170
[SPEAKER_01]: They've got four different mascots.

01:03:41.230 --> 01:03:43.453
[SPEAKER_01]: Their main mascot is like a wolf man.

01:03:44.007 --> 01:03:46.032
[SPEAKER_01]: So you know, I feel like a wolf howling.

01:03:46.453 --> 01:03:54.873
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, howling, which I got to say is pretty smart for to get the crowd hyped up because you're going to have the crowd have room, which is funny.

01:03:55.434 --> 01:03:55.715
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:03:56.316 --> 01:03:56.837
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.

01:03:57.298 --> 01:03:58.000
[SPEAKER_01]: But, um.

01:03:58.908 --> 01:04:18.611
[SPEAKER_01]: But like I said, he bought the team as it was losing money, he's rebranded and he's bringing it back and he is working with me on a podcast about the halers and he wants to like really open the doors and let me ask anything, he'll answer any questions about the business side of baseball as we tell the story this season.

01:04:19.112 --> 01:04:27.582
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll share more about that once it's released to people can go follow it, but it is a cool opportunity that I'm having

01:04:29.333 --> 01:04:29.954
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:04:30.895 --> 01:04:31.155
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:04:31.616 --> 01:04:32.317
[SPEAKER_02]: That is cool.

01:04:32.337 --> 01:04:36.863
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we have, I know we have a good friend of the show in a good friend of ours, Josh, Adam Poll.

01:04:37.384 --> 01:04:37.544
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:04:37.564 --> 01:04:40.067
[SPEAKER_02]: So I assume it's still working for the basics.

01:04:40.087 --> 01:04:47.217
[SPEAKER_02]: So you know, we've got to see a bunch of insider stuff with the basics throughout the whole, but what so it's good.

01:04:47.337 --> 01:04:58.632
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's kind of cool to see a different, but I bet Adam, for example, that everyone who has a

01:04:58.612 --> 01:05:09.313
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll tell you, I'll tell you right now the Lynchburg Hillcats, the season before this guy bought them, they lost $750,000.

01:05:09.513 --> 01:05:16.046
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because it's just, it's just wild and crazy and we're going to get into it on the podcast.

01:05:16.066 --> 01:05:17.509
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll share about it in a few weeks.

01:05:17.529 --> 01:05:19.933
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the weird place to be because you're an affiliate.

01:05:19.953 --> 01:05:23.841
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're kind of you have to exist and you're, yeah, you have to, you're gold.

01:05:23.861 --> 01:05:25.745
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to make, and it'll sit the better plans.

01:05:26.246 --> 01:05:28.149
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to sell name and rights to the stadium.

01:05:28.169 --> 01:05:30.053
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to bring in sponsorship.

01:05:30.218 --> 01:05:39.456
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you part of, I know part of the rebrandon is that the Hillcat mascot sucked and the merch didn't sell well.

01:05:40.057 --> 01:05:42.221
[SPEAKER_01]: So now they've got like four different mascots.

01:05:42.281 --> 01:05:44.566
[SPEAKER_01]: Well they need to market better that college town too.

01:05:44.906 --> 01:05:46.028
[SPEAKER_01]: It might totally agree.

01:05:46.429 --> 01:05:47.451
[SPEAKER_01]: Holy agree.

01:05:47.431 --> 01:05:53.417
[SPEAKER_01]: I asked the same question, I heard they were struggling to get some name and rights for the stadium this year.

01:05:53.517 --> 01:06:02.026
[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, just send one of your assistance over to Liberty University and the right down every name that's on a side of a building.

01:06:02.567 --> 01:06:04.108
[SPEAKER_01]: And you go call all those rich people.

01:06:04.689 --> 01:06:14.579
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just I mean, I'm sure Liberty online their online programs spend so much money on ads and sponsorships everywhere, which is a great point in the Liberty online stadium.

01:06:14.659 --> 01:06:15.300
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:16.341
[SPEAKER_01]: It should be

01:06:16.439 --> 01:06:24.417
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but so that's going to be some cool stuff that I'll be able to have this summer come for that, and uh, excited.

01:06:24.498 --> 01:06:35.022
[SPEAKER_01]: I, yeah, I think your little teaser for the, for the podcast, I played here, but it's not even finished yet, but I sent you it's just a little trailer piece that I need to clean up a little bit.

01:06:35.305 --> 01:06:41.995
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I've used already done some interview to the sky, or, uh, uh, uh, we've done some unrecorded interviews.

01:06:42.196 --> 01:06:46.542
[SPEAKER_01]: I've had lots of conversations off the record, and then, uh, we had a recording.

01:06:46.563 --> 01:06:55.757
[SPEAKER_01]: I think on Friday, our first official, like that's start recording for the, the interviews for the show, but I've, we've had enough interviews that I've started writing the podcast.

01:06:55.777 --> 01:06:56.578
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

01:06:56.598 --> 01:06:59.743
[SPEAKER_02]: Has your resume, uh, the Savannah banana?

01:06:59.723 --> 01:07:03.447
[SPEAKER_02]: biography or whatever, I don't know, that's a good question.

01:07:03.487 --> 01:07:05.068
[SPEAKER_01]: I should ask him about the bananas.

01:07:05.789 --> 01:07:08.111
[SPEAKER_01]: Because the bananas are definitely making an impact.

01:07:08.211 --> 01:07:10.714
[SPEAKER_02]: They can change the promotional game there.

01:07:11.134 --> 01:07:12.736
[SPEAKER_01]: They really have.

01:07:14.678 --> 01:07:19.522
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that banana players, the lowest paid player, makes like $100,000.

01:07:19.622 --> 01:07:20.924
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really?

01:07:20.964 --> 01:07:21.484
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:07:22.365 --> 01:07:28.431
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they play their pay their players pretty good for unafiliated ball.

01:07:29.187 --> 01:07:29.547
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?

01:07:30.228 --> 01:07:32.091
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I assume selling at all these stadiums.

01:07:32.111 --> 01:07:32.832
[SPEAKER_02]: Someone's making money.

01:07:33.132 --> 01:07:36.838
[SPEAKER_02]: And now they've got a counter with HBO, like my son saying, dad, we got to get HBO.

01:07:37.178 --> 01:07:38.760
[SPEAKER_02]: So I can watch, they're on the piano now.

01:07:39.501 --> 01:07:41.244
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what Sala says.

01:07:41.284 --> 01:07:42.826
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how you watch the games in HBO.

01:07:42.846 --> 01:07:44.148
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I thought they were on ESPN.

01:07:45.890 --> 01:07:51.498
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I think every, I think some games go to ESPN, but I think every game is on, it's on HBO.

01:07:51.678 --> 01:07:56.865
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, watch baseball, like you've never seen it before, on HBO Max.

01:07:58.499 --> 01:08:11.908
[SPEAKER_01]: That's funny, and I'll tell you the other thing as we're catching up as brothers and not baseball related is I've got a new car this week, and you tried to make fun of me, we're buying an electric car.

01:08:12.329 --> 01:08:14.915
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, Josh, to be honest, I'm totally jealous.

01:08:15.095 --> 01:08:16.879
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been one electric car.

01:08:16.859 --> 01:08:19.164
[SPEAKER_02]: for like the past, I don't know, six, seven years.

01:08:19.365 --> 01:08:26.421
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been wanting to take care because I'm tired of paper gas prices and because I've driven him on the floor and they're just fun to drive.

01:08:26.622 --> 01:08:28.225
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's just a lot of fun to drive.

01:08:28.286 --> 01:08:29.709
[SPEAKER_02]: So I've never driven him on the floor.

01:08:29.769 --> 01:08:30.832
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm jealous of you.

01:08:30.852 --> 01:08:36.184
[SPEAKER_01]: It is very fun to drive because the zero to 60 acceleration is crazy.

01:08:36.940 --> 01:08:40.766
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll tell you what, I've got a Tesla and it does the full self drive.

01:08:41.708 --> 01:08:50.022
[SPEAKER_01]: I went to Miami yesterday to visit Rob and it's a five hour drive and I went there and back and never touched the steering wheel once.

01:08:51.705 --> 01:08:53.388
[SPEAKER_01]: From drive way to parking lot.

01:08:54.289 --> 01:08:55.591
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's weird.

01:08:55.752 --> 01:08:56.232
[SPEAKER_02]: That's weird.

01:08:56.373 --> 01:09:00.400
[SPEAKER_01]: I sat in the car and watched TV on my phone while the car drove.

01:09:01.201 --> 01:09:01.902
[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird.

01:09:02.911 --> 01:09:06.796
[SPEAKER_02]: That's weird, but also the roads are probably safer now, with you now and I'm sure they are.

01:09:07.017 --> 01:09:11.383
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I trust the robot because I know I'm not a safe of a driver as it is.

01:09:12.124 --> 01:09:15.849
[SPEAKER_02]: I just thought it was a little fishy that you bought a car an electric vehicle.

01:09:16.269 --> 01:09:23.299
[SPEAKER_02]: Then the next day, we go to work that ran and gas prices shoot shoot up through the roof, the day after you buy a car.

01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:24.981
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there's anything to do with this whole thing.

01:09:25.402 --> 01:09:26.884
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a little bit suspicious.

01:09:27.224 --> 01:09:28.406
[SPEAKER_01]: I went to Bucky's today.

01:09:28.506 --> 01:09:29.307
[SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome.

01:09:29.287 --> 01:09:31.390
[SPEAKER_01]: The gas at Bucky's today was 275.

01:09:31.650 --> 01:09:33.432
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen it that low in a while.

01:09:34.514 --> 01:09:34.994
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really?

01:09:35.034 --> 01:09:36.216
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my house.

01:09:36.376 --> 01:09:37.758
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like 240.

01:09:37.778 --> 01:09:40.101
[SPEAKER_02]: And now it's all over the night.

01:09:40.241 --> 01:09:42.604
[SPEAKER_02]: It's jacked up to the high two.

01:09:42.624 --> 01:09:43.505
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like two weeks.

01:09:43.525 --> 01:09:46.068
[SPEAKER_01]: Your gestations must have a direct deal with Iran.

01:09:46.108 --> 01:09:48.331
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe just get that Venezuelan oil.

01:09:48.351 --> 01:09:49.453
[SPEAKER_02]: You go from Venezuela.

01:09:49.473 --> 01:09:53.758
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I guess it's not like they'd have different relations.

01:09:53.738 --> 01:09:56.081
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think we've gotten too close to politics at this point.

01:09:56.101 --> 01:10:23.593
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we got a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a board, a

01:10:23.708 --> 01:10:29.331
[SPEAKER_01]: and go America, you mean USA, USA, thank you.