Pod 626 : Rough Start

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[SPEAKER_06]: Three, six, we on this, so true.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, welcome to Birdland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ladies and gentlemen boys and girls bottomers sports fans of all ages welcome to section three three six next generation of bottomers sports talk I am your in dealing string host Matt Sroka as always.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm joined by the button lover Josh the Hook Sroka.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey man How's it going?

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're caught up today with my uh stabbing myself

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the Michael, I was, I wasn't planning to listen to Michael Marisho yet, but the headline that he just showed his friction, Josh, and then emergency room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, intrigued me enough that I skipped over and listened to the part of what happened to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, where I got the emergency room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, were you got hooked?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was picking up fishing rods in the garage and had one of the big hooks go into my finger and modern hooks all have the barbs in it, so the fish can't get away.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So you can not just pull it out of your finger.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I tried it hurt horribly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Dad, I then went to the emergency room where they had to cut it out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then, well, cut it apart the lure apart so they could get to the hook.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then hook cut the hook off of it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then slice my finger to pull the hook out the other side.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So nothing, nothing fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my kids aren't getting any fish and poles anytime soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad that's not a hobby I've ever gotten into.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's too dangerous for me as is your pointing out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can't handle cutting the grass without getting poisonous.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'd stay away from the hooks if I were you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I saw, what, it's so what happened, you have stitches or butterflies or just tape it up or they, I, I, I, I, sometimes they do glue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did they glue it up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can see it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just a band aid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was, it was wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That little boo boo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Paper cut.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's, it still hurts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was a much bigger bandage until today.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was allowed to switch into a band aid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a typing finger right there, too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, even worse, it's the touch ID finger for like unlocking my computer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I have to now, you know, I'm one of those idiots who has a long password because I never actually type it in and now I have to type it in.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a bummer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a bummer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Every time I have to get onto my computer, I now have to type, please come back Peter Angela's 2024 every time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My last on the ER was with the poison ivy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was when Dietrich Adams was announced, he's on the I.L.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with a foot infection and my mealy mind went to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had, I had, and I got infected.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he has a bad case of poison ivy in his foot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But mate, manager, I'll be said it looks gnarly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My foot looked gnarly too when I

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think could have been that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or he's stepped on a fish hook.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's our post-possibility.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Could be, it could be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There are no details.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess in infectious foot, that is, not only could easily be, could easily be poison.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You are correct.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't know how he would run into poison.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've been calling this foot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he's just doing some yard work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess people were debating how they would shuffle the roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then I feel like we've had what Albert Swerre, since Zach Epsilon, we'll get to Zach Epsilon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to see what down, we had Albert Swerre has come up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we had Kate Povich come up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now we have our third picture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're just already running through pictures here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, who had Brandon Young starting in the second week of Oriental Spaceball?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it was inevitable that he would start to multiple games this year, but not the second week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought we'd get a few weeks in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought we'd get to May, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I did not.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, there's something about though, like Fland being hurt, and then we saw Hayes getting hurt today.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's something about the same guys tend to always get hurt.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like now it's like I'm just waiting for O'Neill.

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[SPEAKER_03]: O'Neill's gonna be hurt any day now I can't believe he's still in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, at some point Well, what whether it's just your body's kind of it's not as strong or the way you play or something I mean, but we see it all the time right now we're still living it with cursed dead

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and to a lesser extent, but still a true Jordan Westburg West to get 30% of the season now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and it seems like some guys stay healthy year and year out and some guys just get hurt every year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you're right, the O'Neill is a ticking time bomb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully, I mean, and it was just, I guess we can start with that plan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just unfortunate because A is stuff looked really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did with the forwardings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And B, I remember all the offseason talk was and all the spring training talk with health care than ever, healthy and an advert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he's like felt better than he has in years, in years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I had this back surgery, you know, and four innings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're bad for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and there's really no word, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Josh, you're ready to write the right it was right elbow discomfort, but I think the bigger news was yesterday when it came out that he is going to Texas for a second opinion, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Which means the first opinion had to be pretty bad.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, he didn't like the first opinion exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the path you're okay?

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[SPEAKER_03]: The first opinion that news was had to be at least 60 day if not more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But either way, whenever talking about elbow, plus second opinions, yes, it's not going to be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Happy ending here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And three weeks ago, we talked about how we have a depth of starting pitch and now it's like, well, where are we?

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[SPEAKER_03]: What happened?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I mean, I feel pretty good about the start in pitching still the the whole idea that a picture could get hurt and there's just pick your guy whoever is rested or whoever's turn it is because I feel about a similar level confidence with Kate Poe bitch or with Dean Kramer or joining young and I think just time-wise there's burning out his turn so he got the start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, when some of these guys I feel pretty equal there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The guy I'm most excited to see is Tray Gibson.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'll try getting them too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I want sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's the guy who won there because because we haven't seen that up into Big League level yet, I still hold out hope that it's even better than those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm sorry, I feel I feel good about the depth and I didn't want to use the depth as early as we have, but I feel okay about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I do too with the start and pitching and I mean we're jumping straight into this, it's all right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're game 10 is going on while we're doing this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we are 3 and 6 at the moment.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And what's been interesting about the 3 and 6 loss is we have seen start and pitch in

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have seen the bats go completely cold and we've seen defense cost us games all across the border.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We've lost these games by every part of baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's true, it's true, I mean, from being late to covering first base with Jeremiah Jackson to like being picked off at first with Kobe Mayo, it doesn't steal any bases.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like we didn't know what to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He never gets on base, so he was confused what to do when he got to first hasn't got picked off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like fundamental stuff, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's one thing, it's been different.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Saturday, Saturday night, what's the chance of two balls in the bottom of the night to be hit over Dylan Bieber's head?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like what's the chance of that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, it's, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, Josh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The three and six star did you just look it on paper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's disappointing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way get around it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, getting swooped by the pirates.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, and it's not like we're going against a juggernaut to the league, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, it's a soft start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a soft start schedule eyes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you would think, oh, this is a good opportunity to go up to a hot start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the

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[SPEAKER_01]: yet with that said, I don't want to be all polyana here, but there's some things I really like about this team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the thing is this is not going to be a withdrawn effect because this team is going to craft the bed again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen plenty of things that exciting about this team that think that no matter what this team is always in the game, even with this

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[SPEAKER_03]: I never felt like we were blown out of many games of these six losses, and I see the bats starting to come alive.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I see bright spots in the bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen there's that Trevor Rodgers seems to be doing it again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's exciting in the in the rotation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm not kind of orials Twitter orials Facebook.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They can melt down

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[SPEAKER_03]: And one of we build, and that's because that is filled with a bunch of people who have never seen this before.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But just expect that you sign Peter Lanzo and you win baseball games.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They haven't been through 162 games.

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[SPEAKER_03]: 9 games is nothing to panic over.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I believe last year, do you know where Craig Albraness was with the Cleveland Cardian question?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know what their record was after nine games?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there are remarkable comeback last year, so I don't know what the record was after nine games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Three and six.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and they didn't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So not, yeah, sometimes I'm about players being slow starters.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The managers have the managers of slow starter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't worry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, it's just tell me, and I know we've talked about it before with that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: with other teams like the Nationals and stuff, where it's like, you can't, you can't judge his team based on nine games.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And there's no way it'll happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With nine games, I like looking at the standings, there's always quirky things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like for example, do you know how many teams in the American League are over 500?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do the 15 teams in the American League?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Over 500?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Fifteen teams?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, there's been some inner division play or air league play.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to go with 13.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, there's three, three teams over 500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's only three teams over 500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Yankees, the Guardians and the Astros.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the lead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Blue Jays are under 500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Rays are at 500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Red Stocks have only won two games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember, I went home with ALAs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every team in the ALAs is going to win 100 games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, the Yankees don't want to even over 500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The Red Stocks have two wins.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like as bad as I think for the Orioles are right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I see plenty of right hope and future.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's get to the specifics.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to the specifics.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you see from this oral squad that you've been encouraged or hopeful about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we can talk about the other one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what are their things here in 10 games that have as you concerned if they continue that this could spell ugliness?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, when I, I'll, here, I'll talk about the offense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The offense is, let's put the offense first.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, negatives.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They've got a lot of strikeouts on some of these games.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But the positives are, they don't have a lot of home runs right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And those are only come later in the season once things warm up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And what the Orioles are doing is manufacturing runs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're still getting around the bases.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're getting men on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're knocking people in with runners in scoring position.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're doing those type of things, which they have failed at for years and years and years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The risk numbers for the Orioles used to be horrible.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not horrible right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, to specifically, I think one of the reasons we are generating some, some runs without the home runs is Taylor Ward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, he has been a huge bright spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Huge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At the lead-off spot, he seems to get on base all the time, both with walks and hits.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that a 342 bat and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he's got a bunch of walks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure he's over 400 on base percentage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what you want for from a lead off guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's my lead off guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even with the lead off guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's my lead off guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: His OPS is 896.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So an excellent job at the lead off position.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's been really encouraging.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other for me, though, just like almost like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: is this too good to be true, but like, this gets me so excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it, is it a place?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, the place has been actually a pleasant surprise for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This has been, I've once, I've made, that play he made to the day a third days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, machado ish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just incredible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just incredible, and but but no, the play at the Rushment offensively at the Rushment offensive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm a great start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looks so good Josh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looks so good at and he's hitting the ball hard and also discipline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Josh, how about this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How about this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we do talk about the strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So far, in the season, in 22 at Bats, five walks, two strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just two strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only the only person on the team, the whole roster, who has two strikeouts, or fewer, is Ryan Mountcastle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's only had five at bats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's today his first start in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the second one, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's a freshman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really have more walks in strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're doing something right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Adley's off to a great start.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Adley has had 22 at bats.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Ryan has had seven at bats.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So three times to play the appearances for the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now if you cut his four doubles, he's hitting the ball hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm so pumped about what I'm super madly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you concerned that the power guys are leading in strikeouts?

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[SPEAKER_03]: That Alonzo and Henderson and Basala were up there in strikeouts with 13 and 11.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, this is, do you mentioned, got, got a Henderson as well?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, 13 strikeouts, but he's got, he hit his third home run tonight.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that, so, and he's leading the team in RBI's, which means he's getting hits when guys are on base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I think, I mean, this offense, the thing holding this offense back right now, I think is Gunner and Alonzo, like they have a cotton going yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's hard when you're the middle of your two, three guys have a cotton going yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so once I beat Alonzo, I think is famous for slow starts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and so I'm confident like both gutter and Pete will get better and so and when they get better, I think this offense will really start to roll and so Um, I'm not concerned, I mean, Pete allows us to have too long of a track record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's gone and hits a bunch of homerons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it only has one so far and he has to strike out, but he's he's going to start hitting with as well as he is hidden.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Rochman.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Would you, if you were Craig, would you swap M and Pete and put Pete behind him?

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[SPEAKER_03]: You put Peter behind him, even with Pete struggling, that's even better pitches coming to Adley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because you have a fake Pete.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess, but Ali seems to be doing just fine and the piece is doing fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if Ali continues to hit well, hopefully Pete will start getting some more pictures to hit, and he can take advantage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So no, I like the line of construction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the top four or five are going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm willing to generally as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm encouraged that the back end of the both of the,

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[SPEAKER_03]: lineup has not just been a dead area that those guys are getting on base two.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That we've had so many years of baseball where once you get past the six batter, it's like, oh, Mateo's not going to do anything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's probably isn't going to do anything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Whoever else we have in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's been a bit of a mixed bag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like Colton Calzer, Colby Mayo.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they're both strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're strong, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's also struggled.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but then you've had guys like, late last time as Andrew, who's really stepped up, Leody DeVaris, and it's just kind of short spots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's really, played well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's been a bit of a mixed bag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am concerned,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the two players who can serve in the most where worry is this like going to be an all-year thing is Kobe Mayo and Colton Couser.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm worried about them offensive that they can turn this thing around.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because they're at 182 and 2111 currently, Pat and average, and what's interesting is both those guys looked good in Sarasota.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we saw them like spring training.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was something

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[SPEAKER_03]: and now not so much.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So hopefully they can settle down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't figure out Kobe Mayor to say in my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looked great at the end of the last year and looked great in spring training offensively.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was coming here waving the red flags, defense, defense, defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first game of season made like two amazing defensive players that opened in day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That first series, he made a few.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and if defense has been okay, he's made a couple of bad bad plays, but for the most part fine, he's been better defensively, but worse offensively, it's like he switched bodies or something like I thought, okay, we can put up with the bad defense for the good offense, but now we're putting up with the bad offense for okay defense, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Josh, when blaze on the other place, third base, it's a pretty significant upgrade over Kobe Mayo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Kobe Mayo needs to make up for that at the plate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm worried that when Jackson Holiday returns, which will be soon,

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[SPEAKER_01]: that if Kobe Mayo is not producing offensively, it makes sense that blaze becomes almost the everyday third baseman, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And would that be the next second?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe if blaze can perform offensively and be okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: As of so far, it's played really well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's going to be an arrest in when because I thought, I thought Jackson Howard might come up today.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought they might have sent him to Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But clearly, they're going to wait until Friday when the team's back home at this point, and that means they got a, I imagine Jeremiah Jackson is playing tonight, but I imagine that he's going to be the guy out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You think so?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think, I mean, it's really him or Ryan Mountcastle.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You don't think Kobe Mayo is on the bubble?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think Kobe is on the bubble.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't, don't, here's what I would say.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Kobe's got options for maintenance, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I could also see the argument of, hey, go on down and get hot and then we'll bring you back up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I could see that as an excuse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The, I mean, massive today showed a pretty remarkable stat that we had like four guys in the top eight in all the baseball in terms of

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[SPEAKER_01]: just trying to figure out a word of this in terms of having the graphic in terms of other teams throwing off-speed pitches to our guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like for example, Coding Couser is number one in baseball for seeing off-speed pitches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's something like 45% of the pitches throw to Coding Couser.

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[SPEAKER_01]: are off speed pitches and he just can't hit him and he can't hit him and Gunner Henderson on that list and Cody Calder was on that list and Dylan Beavers was on that list and I think maybe out of the arrangement was the other guy on that list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all young or real players on that list in terms of just seeing a ton of off-speed pitches, maybe Kobe Mayo is on that list too, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's something

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[SPEAKER_01]: Court of Cowards needs to figure out how to hit off me pitching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's when this team is going to see a whole lot more of the off-street pitches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's connection to that and all the strikeouts as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we need to figure this out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you explain to me, uh, Colton Couser, Dylan Beaver's center field?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I always thought Dylan Beaver's head speed and could cover center field, but then he had the he had a game where he, on Saturday night where he could not get to the ball twice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that a real knock against Beaver's or was it bad luck?

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[SPEAKER_03]: What happened there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, yeah, I think it's, I think it might

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the question is, if court and cows are continues to struggle, who's going to play centerfield?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and Dylan Beaver's is played appearances are good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, he's a good player's parents, and he does seem to have speed, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like not a lead with a good speed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of, yeah, I agree, it's kind of weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think, from what I've seen of Taylor Ward or certainly O'Neill, like, they're not a quick to play a center field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Leo did to Barra setting is good, but I don't think and continue offensively enough to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not in a field or you don't want him in your line-up every day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, I know people are kind of tired of Colton Couser, but it's also what he brings defensively, but he's also not a elite center filter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost, he's always playing out a position a little bit like he should be playing left field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, yeah, I think that he feels like a left fielder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This could turn into kind of to a glaring hole at center field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe at the trade deadline, you know, we can trade for a strategic mallons or something, the trade deadline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but this Anthony Nunez kid, who we got in the trade for tragic moments from the maps, reliever, healthy Nunez.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was pretty awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been, yeah, I like this kid kind of out of nowhere, and it's kind of it's been a little fun watching these no names and ceiling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rico Garcia, I think that's been pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anthony Nunez has been good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still have, I mean, tell it well, it's actually struck a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, we're talking offence, I just jumped right into the bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of interesting watching these unknowns come up and key spots and try to kind of prove their spots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It feels almost like spring training in the bullpen as you have all these young, unproven pitchers trying to show that they belong here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It definitely feels a little bit like, yeah, with the pitchers, I will say, Cedric Mullins is currently has a baton average of 132.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so if it was 38 play appearances, so no, I believe that means that Colton Calzler has a better bat and a average rate of another set of bones, so it could be worse, yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: it could be worse.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's a standoff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's things that kind of stand out towards about this line up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're happy with the order.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We see progress.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We see things to be excited about worried about Pete and Gunner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm still, I'm not worried about Pete and Gunner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just dreaming when Taylor Ward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he is playing the way he's playing, if Isaac needs to play the way that he plays, combine that with Gunnar and Pete actually playing how the capable of, I mean, that's a juggernaut of a first place, or that a team needs to get through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the young players, Basalo and Mego,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little concerned about that, but I want to see what they can do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, Tauzer, as well, like that, I think that's something to watch through the course of this season or the course of the next month or so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, the meantime, I think I've been really impressed with the depth in terms of the roster, potentially, and offensively with Jeremiah Jackson, plays Alexander, Leo de Tavaris,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the depth that we had, so offensively, so I feel like that's a strength of this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to even stronger when Jack's holiday comes back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, well, let's talk about next talk about the line up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk about the start and pitch in the rotation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The huge bright spot is Trevor Rogers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Trevor Rogers, what's his area now?

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[SPEAKER_03]: 138.

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[SPEAKER_03]: 1-38 with 13-in-inch pitch to two starts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's he's pitching like a good last year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's being felt right back into with the whole can he do it again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He clearly can It looks like yeah, yeah now there was there has been especially not first start some traffic That was good amount of traffic They're getting hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's walked some guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I feel like it had but Trevor Rogers could have always even last year

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the reasons people thought this can't last is he told us a little bit and he doesn't strike out a ton of guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of these elite starters when they talk about the school bull and Gorshay and I'm always a and

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are coal and Paul schemes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's usually high strike out numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Trevor Rogers is not high strike out numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't strike you out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just gets weak contact after weak contact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he's continued that the season though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, Trevor Rogers certainly is a bright spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, our starters, our starters have two wins, Josh, from our starting pitchers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're both close to Trevor Rogers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So Trevor Rodgers, clear bright spot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, let's see who's next in the rotation call, Braddish.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's a little concerning.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's, um, two bad starts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he had two bad starts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Two starts, eight point two in ends.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He has a six, two, three ERA.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What happened to call, Braddish?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and, and the, the first game, okay, you know, only had only pitch forettings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only game I, I think, two hits in that game had some walk.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it was a kind of, yeah, but it's pitch count got up fast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the Pittsburgh game, that's the one that got ugly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another four innings gave up a bunch of runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I think they're keeping the pitch count down again, intentionally with him, because they're coming back from, you know, not pitching a full season of the race.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there might be some of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But those are two Josh two, not it's all offenses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's probably concern two is these are two not good

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's still got this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still he's still over a strike out and in and right so that's so stuff is still good I think and I think Coach Albe talked about or manager Albe talked about to the fastball location The walks right are concerning yes, what walks yeah, let's see.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He has currently worse walks

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he has six walks, but it's the same as wild Josh.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because yeah, Rogers has five, but he's done 13 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, that's too high, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you would think, like, Cobb Rattish can figure that out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's stuff is good enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still in the swing and misses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still in the strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, figure out, I think, will figure out the, the fastball location.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the walks will go down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm still optimistic and high on Cobb Rattish, even if it's been a rocky two starts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what's interesting is Brattish's pitch per start.

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[SPEAKER_03]: is the averaging that 82 pitches per start, but he's only last in like four minutes to start.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Where Trevor Rogers is at 89 in his per start, and he's going 6 in his.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that, well, this is part two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Trevor Rogers, in some ways, has unique advantage of not getting strikeouts, but getting with contact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so he's not going deep in the counts, trying to strike people out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to get you out in the third pitch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a few pitchers do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, right, national pundits of people in the media, I think they've proved that, because they want to see strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, our advantages are going deep in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, producing contact and throwing less pitches for any.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to see out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, all right next up would be is it chain bias I think it would be the third third game I believe

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really, I mean, his start is last start against Pittsburgh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like, I mean, high 90s fastball, even though there was not high 90s late into the game, I really like what I see with Shane Bass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just been, I think he's got really good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I want to win start there and you'd like to see him get deeper in the game all the time, but the stuff looks really good to me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's not getting deep enough in the games and that means the games aren't being locked up 3, 20, 70 or 8, not too bad for two starts, especially when they're both losses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and we'll see, we'll see when he builds up when they, I mean, because they always the first start, they let them in anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious, he is next start.

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[SPEAKER_03]: How much pressure on Shane Bazz by signing him with an extension before his first start?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesse, we ever even talked about his extension on here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, that's what I was just wondering.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think we have, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think we have either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you guess about, you're a thousand of the auditions.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We haven't because they made the announcement the day after open in day on that off day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so what are your thoughts on the Orgals choosing to not extend Gunner Henderson or Don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's that extended chain baths.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm having a question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm having a question out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You are you are too smart to fall for that if they could sign Gunner Henderson for a five year deal like this they would

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, okay, Sign Trevor Rogers next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Trevor Rogers and the how many guys who are having a great year, signing extensions on the final year of their deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no incentive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to pay attention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no motivation for him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just wait and chain bad.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The chain bad is deal five years, 68 million.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If he's our fourth starter, that's not bad.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's not bad numbers either.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And as prices go up, it's not a bad contract.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a pretty good contract for the Orioles.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No matter where he is in the rotation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, assuming, here's why it seems like a win to win to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, he's not making any money this year because he's still in the early early arbitration.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this gives them a lot more guarantee money now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as opposed to no really no guarantee money I have for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: from being drafted of being hurt a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's, he's been injured a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so this gives him, he could, you know, his arm could fall off tomorrow and he's still guaranteed all his money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so his motivation seems to make sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been hurt a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not making very much 20 now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: here's sounds ironic money now and I get it guaranteed so the motivation for him makes sense and that's a risk we're taking by signing a picture who's has it a past being injured yeah so that's the risk we're taking but it seems like a very safe makes sense on both sides kind of risk I think the orals are optimistic it can be a number two starter but you're right for that price tag we'll take them as a number four states

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's about $12 million a year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right now, Dean Cramer signed this January for $6 million a year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he was on the fridge and market.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's wild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, part of this is because you're buying out some arbitration years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, correct.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's, no, it's a great move for the Orioles.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I hope they continue all season to extend players.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We all want Gunner Henderson extended.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that's a ton of money.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the Orioles actually are going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're going to figure it out because I think you need it for your reputation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think one of the show that you can do it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And there's no one else that can fill that void and you don't want to be, well, that's the team that let Mani go and now they're letting Gunner go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You could.

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[SPEAKER_03]: maybe Jackson holiday with an extension, but Jackson holiday is no gunner Henderson at the moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I mean, I think you need it too, just from a logistical standpoint in your bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you can't keep on

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[SPEAKER_01]: doing this one-year deal like we're doing this year with Bassett and Half-Lendon, we did it last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you need to have some stability there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And at the end of the year, right, Zack, Half-Lendon's going to be a free agent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chris Bassett, I guess he has an option maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think there's an option.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chris Bassett's going to be a free agent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then if you look at CalBrattish.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't the same year as he becomes a free agent.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be having the same discussion in November that we had last November of the sign in Ace.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to go get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And Trevor Rogers, like, this is it for him too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I would love a Trevor Rogers extension.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't know how you get it done with how he's performing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The only way you get it done is if he gets hurt.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If he's a Tommy John candidate, then you get it done.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I mean, you're not getting it done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, he's making six mill this year and it is going to be a for agent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and he is, if he continues to pitch like he does now,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to get all the money in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the only, I guess the only, and I don't know who else is in the fridge of market, I know the hopefully Scoob will be out there, so maybe everyone will be so distracted by Scoob that we can get Trevor Rogers for a level of Scoob.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But hopefully we've already started with Rogers so hey, you shall pass.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we saved your career.

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[SPEAKER_03]: How do we get you?

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[SPEAKER_03]: How do we get you here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it seems like maybe cop radishes doable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you wanted to do that, I don't know if you let me do that coming off the time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to I want to see a little more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Gunner Henderson feels a little bit too close to fridge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I feel like almost you missed that window.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I also feel that you're going to have to overpay Gunner because of you missed that window.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't think you can let Gunner go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think you don't, I don't think you can afford to hear, we talked, we talked plenty during the off season about how the Orioles have hurt their fan base this off season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're seeing it with a tendency as you predicted and you're seeing it with the fan response.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, winning cures all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So they start winning and it'll cure all that stuff and people will show up and they'll be excitement about the team again, but I don't think this fan base is ready to go through

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Josh, but the counterpoint if we have, I mean, this year's off to a rough start, if we have another 2024 season, I'm sorry, 2025 season this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't that seem to start to say, well, maybe the way this seems to construct is not working.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yes, let's not just restart everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to need to start making some televisions, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be a good idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might be at the center of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's we can get a bunch of prospects for Gunnar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can retool this thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, all right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to go rebuild, but I'm just saying no.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You sound like when you go with that attitude, you sound like Raven fans.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then you also sound like the guys who are on line now saying, hey remember these are young kids any more Gunner and Adley Colton.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They've been up here a few years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They are now veterans, and this isn't acceptable anymore But that's isn't that true though, Josh.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's all true.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's all true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not it And if this is not if it's not gonna work this year after starting war in Alonso.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, if it's not gonna work this year Yes, that I think you need to really rethink the way that teams construct it

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think if you don't, this is the conversation down the road, but there's a conversation down the road, but I don't think this fan base can go through losing Gunner Henderson because the young adults who are oral fans now, as kids, they lost many Machado.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And if they now lose Gunner Henderson also, but they got Chris Davis.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that would be something you'd want to do to the fan base, where you're already struggling to sell seeds and tickets and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Especially when you're looking down the road at expansion and stuff and not losing that Nashville market, I mean, no team gets hurt as bad during expansion teams as Baltimore seems.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure we'll have a good TV deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If that happens, where they'll compensate us in some kind of man-end deal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then 15 years later, take all the money back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, take us to court for a decade.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and take most of money to court.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I just don't think as a fan base, you really wanted to do that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, but we work on through the rotation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I got distracted.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we got we went through Braddish with his Rogers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So next up is Chris Bassett.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh, Josh, is this I mean, I know everyone is saying Charlie Morton 2.0, but it's a pretty reminiscent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen this movie before.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I thought it was different.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, now of 14 to one year, I really, really bad day on was that Saturday or Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_03]: One was that it was Easter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was Easter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was Easter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was Easter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just as Charlie mourns the Easter is that, sir.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we should not wish it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We shouldn't play on Easter anymore.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, we should just crucify Chris Bassett.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, stop, stop, stop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we, we, we as a country don't respect the list holidays enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We should take off Easter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, kids go to school on good Friday and have to go to school on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like we just dropped here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Not here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They had good Friday off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here they had to go to school good Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about the Monday after Easter?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They go to school?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they went to school today.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Chris Bassett has lasted six in it's total would one start that's not bad That would be two starts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He has gone 6.1.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He has given up 12 hits 10 runs Walked six guys he only has three strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it looks like I mean it looks like it can anybody out And 81 pitches so he's the pitches per start so he's still getting all his pitches in

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a gamer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He'll go out there and he'll hook into you to throw even though he stinks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, and again, this was his terrible game on Sunday was against Pittsburgh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not, it's not the Yankees here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Pittsburgh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You shouldn't give up that many home runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, or that many runs against, in a Pittsburgh team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's two bad starts now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first thing to think is the starts are so bad that it's hard to even stay competitive, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the Pittsburgh game, the game was over in the second minute, and at least at least like give your team a chance to stay competitive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So how many uncompetitive appearances can you put up with Chris Bassett for?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, one would argue the leash was way too long with with Charlie Morton, but we have some better options.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this time around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't need to have a long leash that could pass it, but we also are paying a good amount of money.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think you can send a rest of them with Chris Bassett because of the Zachary Fland injury.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he bought himself a little bit more time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but we still have some good today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned try Gibson Dean Kramer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, today's Hobbit today.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We put planned in young on the mound And I know it's the white socks But he went five he went five scoreless in it So that deserves another start.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You would think What yeah, what is that happening out here, so hold it in a second.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that deserves for him to hold down that that fifth slot

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, that's it's getting at least two more starts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think so, poof which is now in the team, do you think, I think it's on the text, do I maybe?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think, you pitch well the other day, do you think you swap the roles of faster than poof which is an interpretation to make poof which is a starter and put faster as long as you can tell you figure stuff out?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think you have to, I think you have to figure out what, why Chris Bass is so bad.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think if it was something obvious, then you would have sent him on the I.L.

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[SPEAKER_03]: for 15 days after that start on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think they're trying to figure out what to do with Chris Bassett, because they know he should be better than that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he has to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were singing the praises of the two veteran leaders along his own Bassett.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like props to them, I'm sure they're great clubhouse guys and they're leaders, but they haven't produced yet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So still waiting for you at some point you have to produce and you can't be the one like talking to be game, but they're not not showing up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can't be a god to be like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can be a god to take it seriously or a manager.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can't say, guys, we got to take this series and then walk for guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can't do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there could be a little bit of, I think this happens to sports a lot of like trying too hard right in the haphazard sportswear.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, especially on your first start, your first start with a new team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I stand there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're a veteran, you're a leader, so there's like you're putting more pressure in yourself and that could actually lead to mad results and that's why I forgave some of Shane Basz's first start because I can't imagine the extra pressure he feels after that contract.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, Chris Bassett, I think he's got a few more starts in him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, but we're certainly going to watch him and see how he performs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, but, you know, we're concerned there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll see, you also, I mean, whenever you talk about Chris Bassett, the reason that Charlie Morton comparison has come up is because he's 37 as well, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: not and he's not young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't expect his stuff to decline.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But he was sold to us exactly like Charlie Martin.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And old guy, nothing flashy, but he's in an eater.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this guy's not eaten any innings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to get out to eat innings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he can throw a hundred pitches, but he got to get out if you want to pitch past the second inning, even with the

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, all right, and then open.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and then what we are trying to get to talk about F1 as a fifth starter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah I went and F1 pitched three in ends and went on the IL so he looked good for he looked good for those three in I stopped look really good Yeah, it is Um, the second the second doctor really concerns me or the second opinion Yeah, but an opportunity for Brandon young and certainly made the most of it today stepped up today

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and well, I mean, and watch Dean Kramer and Drake Gibson in the miners and we'll see what capital K Pope is, but we have some options there too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think like this team is positioned better than previous teams to withstand an injury to start pitching, as long as it's not and as long as not

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think because we don't have a replacement for a one or two, but we have a replacement for a four or five starter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, Shane Bay has to stay healthy, too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's keep it up three.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, top.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm all right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's rotate and four and five.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right to the bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, bright spots in the bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, well, we, we, we, we talked about it before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were going to talk about the bullpen, um, Anthony Newton, Newton, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looks seems to have some really good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He does, but he lacks his variance.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, but he's not the guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's not the flashy guy in the bullpen for me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The guy that's the most fun to watch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Really, who are you going with?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Rekel, are we gonna go see ya?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Rekel, he doesn't, he doesn't, he has a lot of a run yet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's pitching four games, four games, three-point-two in-ins, and he has let up no hits, nothing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Filthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like Nuneas, I like Garcia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like Housley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know he lost that tag game for us, but yeah, but throw was hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like Housley and I feel like beavers could have caught one of those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like he's a legit closure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I like Housley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to... Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Seems like I thought so, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's done it before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so Nunez Garcia, I think I need to see more of them in tight, high-level spots if they can hold up, but certainly good stars for Nunez and Garcia and healthy scenes good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I feel good about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I feel like he's 50 years old, but maybe he's not that old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, yeah, I think he's a good veteran.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 36, 36 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How many are you younger than Bassett?

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, take a back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Josh, I haven't been impressed with Talah Wells.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, Talah Wells is all my list of negatives for the bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We keep giving him opportunities.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's pitched 4.2 in and 5.79 ERA, I know the Orioles brought him in again tonight and he did all right, what I saw, I saw one in and he was in there pitching and got us through the in in, but for a guy who was a guy that we felt like was on the bubble for starting and a guy that we argued had the stuff for the back end of the bubble, we haven't seen any of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he doesn't look sharp and yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that that has me a little concerned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully it can figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You wonder about he's been so good in this short since a starter and he's done the bullpending before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it just made sense, but hopefully you can figure things out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you concerned about any of it or can know at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like already in the high-level situations, they're turning to Nuneas and maybe even Garcia, certainly if it's the leftee, Wolfram, against lefties, more than, you know, I'm a little bit surprised with

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[SPEAKER_01]: the usage of cano and i'm curious if that goes is uh it extends going forward but we were a little i mean i was i thought he was on the bubble to make the raster i was last year so yeah i was considering to see more i need to see more of cano well then that's my concern is i was concerned with cano the second half of last year and from what i've seen so far it looks about the same as the second half of last year

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and not the lights out still you down, uh, guy we've had in the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so, uh, yeah, I'm curious to see if he can continue to produce strike as if he could continue to produce ground balls, because that's we should be producing strikeouts and ground balls all day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I need to see, I haven't seen enough of him this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see more canal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Agreed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That takes care of the oil's roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and just real quick, yes, with the key can take an injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what's the bullpen one and we have a lot of specialists with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kate with Keegan taken out and now actually with teetrick ends now anything but with teetrick at the coach ends also have a lot he's a foot-up action out the foot in terms of lefty bullpen I mean I know we brought up kpo bitch but really in terms of high leverage bullpen lefties it's kids both from no it's Grant Wolfram okay and and Grant Wolfram I feel like in these key spots at the end against lefties

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems to me he's and he's pitch well so far this year, but he seems a little bit in over his head to be the guy coming in all these cute situations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's at a lot of these.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're missing Keegan, Keegan as that left to back in the book.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe we're from it's tough to figure out because he's got strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He gets his out by strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The problem is he let's up a lot of hits and runs in between those strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I, again, I mean, he's not the guy who doesn't have a much of a track record in the major leagues, and so he's kind of a veteran minor leagueer, so he's good, I think that I fully did a bunch of these guys good as an opportunity, but I don't know if he's ready for the be the eighth in a guy or seventh in a guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: when you're facing a couple elite left-handed hitters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he's that guy yet, but we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think I hurry up, kick, kick and aching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Grant Wolfram's doing an okay job so far, but I think kicking aches an upgrade there whenever he comes back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good for him that a concert because he gets his opportunity to show that he can kind of pitch in that role.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can job there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, your boy, Riga Garcia is in the game tonight in the evening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's just like another key spot, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a safe note.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A whole situation, two runs up in the evening to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Turn to Riga.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't turn to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us how to tell us

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[SPEAKER_01]: It isn't interesting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You did it, but we could see it because you know, I hope it's a pattern of not sticking with a guy, but go and constantly with the hot hand.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I love that move from the bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think you should always go with the hot hand.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not be like, oh, this guy's or 7th in a guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is our eighth in a guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, you put Rico out there because he's your best guy out of the bullpen right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you need to get down this heart of the lineup.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what Rico's there for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, uh, again, not a long track record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, he had nine holds last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And no, that's one thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one, that's, that's a track record thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a hot hand thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, all right, outside of the roster.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you jealous that all this new stuff went in the cam in the arms and we haven't been able to make it up yet?

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[SPEAKER_03]: It looks good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It looks good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It all looks good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I hear you can hear.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I hear the sound system's good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can ask your things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And don't think you have trouble fighting a cedar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Take it either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No plenty of seats.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Plenty of seats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can do that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can do that third in and move around.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No problem.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And last thing I had on my list was the ABS system.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think of it so far?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, what do I think of it so far?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a little bit torn with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's where I like about it and I was telling everybody, no, listen to me, I was telling everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is people who were like the critics of it were like, oh, it's going to slow down the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to take away the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's gotten the crowd into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I told everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, you haven't been to a minor league game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When there's a close call and everybody turns to the board and there's almost nothing more exciting

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[SPEAKER_01]: than an upgating, a ball overturned for a strike three strike out is one of the more exciting moments when you go to a live game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't feel the same on TV, live though, it's compelling on that new, huge, or a jumbo screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's quite about it in your favor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a crowd excited.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What's great about it is they don't tell the Empire ahead of time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So there's not a call, and then we show you why, it's a, hey, let's all look at this at the same time together and see what the play is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's fine, that's the same time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's fast, it's great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, what I don't, it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I love how they measured all the players.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So there's no real argument, like it's nailed down, like the strike zones, the strike zone, love all that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I am at the same time as much as I love the ABS.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I now want it expanded to just all pictures or ABS and let the empire just be told in this earball strike and they relay it because there's no need to show up the empire.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's good to call right all the time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want it'll never happen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll never happen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want a game to come down to game strategy of whether or not to challenge.

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[SPEAKER_03]: when I'd rather just have the call right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I disagree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the strategy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also think, I mean, I don't think that'll ever happen because the catching position would go away, like that whole skill of catching and would go away for aiming pitches.

54:49.486 --> 54:50.047
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

54:50.608 --> 54:53.292
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there is something too,

54:53.272 --> 54:57.338
[SPEAKER_01]: the art of, oh, the umpires calling inside fastballs.

54:57.358 --> 55:02.486
[SPEAKER_01]: So can you kind of inch the ball a little bit in the inside to get away with the strike there?

55:02.946 --> 55:04.328
[SPEAKER_01]: And oh, no, it's a hair.

55:04.468 --> 55:06.191
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it, it annoys me.

55:06.231 --> 55:08.034
[SPEAKER_01]: Like obvious calls overturned.

55:08.154 --> 55:08.895
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm all about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: obvious calls.

55:10.417 --> 55:14.864
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we saw the world of baseball.

55:14.964 --> 55:18.148
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.

55:18.169 --> 55:21.253
[SPEAKER_01]: One of those games, I don't

55:21.233 --> 55:36.323
[SPEAKER_01]: a white sax player stole second base tonight and we challenged over turn the call because when he split on second his leg popped up a milla a milla a milla milla meter and we tied them and that feels like against the spirit of

55:36.303 --> 55:42.632
[SPEAKER_01]: He really stole the base, okay, so, and that feels like the ABS, are we netting here to take us in the way?

55:42.652 --> 55:46.037
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm a little bit concerned about that part of the game.

55:46.678 --> 55:54.750
[SPEAKER_03]: You kind of convince me with the pitch frame and with pitchers and catchers having to work strategy with how theump is calling the game.

55:54.770 --> 55:55.832
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, kind of.

55:55.852 --> 55:57.334
[SPEAKER_01]: And here's how to adjust the pitchers.

55:57.354 --> 56:00.218
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you got me with if we're straight ABS.

56:00.198 --> 56:11.142
[SPEAKER_03]: then you're just going to teach a guy to be a machine and always hit that spot and not work around the spots and not work with the entire so you got me there and you got and I'm starting to come around a little bit on the strategy.

56:11.723 --> 56:12.725
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the strategy.

56:13.367 --> 56:17.295
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what I feel like when we went DA to cross the board.

56:17.933 --> 56:35.352
[SPEAKER_03]: We lost that beautiful manager aspect of how to manage your lineup construction and when the call and a pinch hitter for your picture and all that that's a national league had that made the national league so much fun and now we've got a even though the manager can't make the call

56:35.416 --> 56:36.177
[SPEAKER_03]: to challenge it.

56:36.658 --> 56:38.681
[SPEAKER_03]: He definitely gives them permission or not.

56:39.122 --> 56:43.950
[SPEAKER_03]: And controls it and talks to the teams to there's no way they're not going up there.

56:43.970 --> 56:48.938
[SPEAKER_03]: No and hey, if this is a tight spot challenge if you think you got it.

56:49.619 --> 56:50.400
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, we're not.

56:50.941 --> 56:52.423
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that might be that might be fine.

56:52.443 --> 56:54.446
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Kobe may have a challenge a couple of ones got them wrong.

56:54.466 --> 56:54.927
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

56:54.907 --> 56:58.851
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, yeah, Kobe Mayo may be shouldn't have the Queen life.

56:58.871 --> 57:08.601
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then maybe Abernes told him he doesn't have the green light, but if you're up there and you feel like you just got screwed I'm like top my head even without permission because it's just like just like a gut reaction.

57:08.621 --> 57:09.482
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, that's not right.

57:09.782 --> 57:14.166
[SPEAKER_03]: Tad, and I can't wait to see that happen at little league.

57:14.186 --> 57:19.812
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't wait to see little leagueers just do it for fun Like I don't like that call and certain happen.

57:19.892 --> 57:24.897
[SPEAKER_03]: No one is not going to do anything But just on slight way to show up the up and I'm excited for that

57:25.568 --> 57:30.039
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I, I, I, I, I like it for for the most part.

57:30.520 --> 57:36.074
[SPEAKER_01]: I also think, I mean, we talked about Ali Ruchman has a good eye to start the year.

57:36.475 --> 57:38.620
[SPEAKER_01]: There's value and known in the strike zone.

57:38.941 --> 57:40.725
[SPEAKER_01]: And this seems to like.

57:40.705 --> 57:44.994
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, encourage and promote knowing the stretch zone, right?

57:45.014 --> 57:45.895
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can challenge.

57:45.935 --> 57:54.853
[SPEAKER_01]: You can all challenge if you have a really good understanding of what a bone of strike is and that seems like a good skill to have and you're rewarding that skill with the ABS system.

57:54.873 --> 57:55.795
[SPEAKER_01]: So I kind of like that trip.

57:57.142 --> 58:01.626
[SPEAKER_01]: people who don't know that if you're in a bonus strike kind of gets screwed over because they don't have the challenge.

58:01.646 --> 58:11.274
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and you know what, there was made a whole big deal about how they're not going to show the strike zone on TV anymore or whatever because they're worried about cheating, it doesn't bother me at all.

58:11.855 --> 58:13.496
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't notice it from the TV broadcast.

58:13.576 --> 58:15.918
[SPEAKER_03]: It's still, they show it like a little right after the pitch.

58:15.958 --> 58:16.859
[SPEAKER_03]: It's perfectly fine.

58:17.339 --> 58:19.341
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, in fact, I think I prefer it.

58:20.142 --> 58:21.022
[SPEAKER_01]: We live for years now.

58:21.042 --> 58:22.203
[SPEAKER_01]: We're looking like a video game.

58:23.024 --> 58:23.244
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

58:24.125 --> 58:26.507
[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like Josh in terms of

58:26.842 --> 58:28.701
[SPEAKER_01]: Big Baseball Decisions.

58:29.423 --> 58:32.968
[SPEAKER_01]: All of baseball does, all they do is hit home runs, right?

58:32.988 --> 58:46.605
[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like every decision they made recently, whether it's the extra inning roll, whether it's the larger bases, certainly the pitch clock, now the ABS system, it seems like, you know, for a while, they were afraid to tweak with stuff.

58:46.665 --> 58:51.892
[SPEAKER_01]: Now they're tweaking stuff, and it all seems to be working well and for the betterment of the game of baseball.

58:52.332 --> 58:57.439
[SPEAKER_01]: Leading, I know that it has shown up with, or attendance, but overall, it seems like popularity baseball is on the rise.

58:57.419 --> 58:57.860
[SPEAKER_03]: It does.

58:58.020 --> 58:59.542
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know people complain.

58:59.922 --> 59:07.011
[SPEAKER_03]: If the one thing I hear people complain about that baseball got it wrong is how the games are on all the different streaming networks.

59:07.271 --> 59:13.699
[SPEAKER_03]: So sometimes you don't know where the game is, whether it's on peacock or Netflix or Apple TV and where it is.

59:13.719 --> 59:13.819
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

59:14.180 --> 59:17.764
[SPEAKER_03]: And those people just kind of get over it because that's just like when we go on.

59:17.784 --> 59:19.286
[SPEAKER_03]: That's an interesting sports right now.

59:19.306 --> 59:20.828
[SPEAKER_03]: That's sports sports now.

59:20.808 --> 59:24.153
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just, and everyone company's worry wasn't like this girl.

59:24.193 --> 59:28.759
[SPEAKER_03]: Not, yeah, it was, it was called Cable TV and you just didn't know what channel it was on.

59:29.140 --> 59:35.388
[SPEAKER_03]: What do, whether it was Fox or TBS or where it was, we had the exact same thing, but now it's apps.

59:35.428 --> 59:36.109
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how you feel.

59:36.430 --> 59:36.830
[SPEAKER_01]: Get over it.

59:36.850 --> 59:40.435
[SPEAKER_01]: It does feel, I mean, even like the Oscars, it moved in a YouTube TV in a few years, right?

59:40.936 --> 59:41.396
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.

59:41.436 --> 59:42.057
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't watch it.

59:42.778 --> 59:44.000
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not true.

59:44.040 --> 59:45.843
[SPEAKER_01]: The ratings have those.

59:45.903 --> 59:47.625
[SPEAKER_03]: Not the ratings are in the dump.

59:49.782 --> 59:54.288
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I don't know about Oscar rating numbers.

59:54.348 --> 59:55.430
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not kidding.

59:55.450 --> 59:58.374
[SPEAKER_03]: I think more people go to Ordo games than watch the Oscars.

59:58.915 --> 01:00:07.126
[SPEAKER_01]: But the reality of it is, I get frustrated having to pay for all these streaming channels.

01:00:07.507 --> 01:00:17.140
[SPEAKER_01]: But the reality of it is, our parents are paying more for cable, honestly, but I'm paying to stream these three or four separate things I was streaming.

01:00:17.120 --> 01:00:23.827
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm not paying, I mean, people who you gave were paying over $100 for cable are not doing that with this street.

01:00:23.847 --> 01:00:26.690
[SPEAKER_03]: So this Friday, this Friday, here's your heads up.

01:00:26.770 --> 01:00:29.272
[SPEAKER_03]: This Friday, the Oriole game is on Apple TV.

01:00:30.193 --> 01:00:37.581
[SPEAKER_03]: If I can't watch it on the MLB appada, it's as easy to find as any of the other games, just get your mindset, right?

01:00:37.681 --> 01:00:41.605
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't want to hear you complain about where's the game, why is it on Apple TV?

01:00:42.326 --> 01:00:43.667
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have Apple TV Josh.

01:00:45.217 --> 01:00:49.483
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they give me a free month or something.

01:00:51.526 --> 01:00:57.635
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see, and Orioles are on Apple TV this Friday, and then they're also on it on when May 22nd.

01:00:59.157 --> 01:01:00.058
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they're smart.

01:01:00.619 --> 01:01:01.440
[SPEAKER_03]: See what they're doing there.

01:01:02.141 --> 01:01:04.925
[SPEAKER_03]: They put you down April 10th and then May 22nd.

01:01:05.146 --> 01:01:08.170
[SPEAKER_03]: So your free trial is going to expire before it came to.

01:01:08.285 --> 01:01:09.526
[SPEAKER_03]: They're gonna, they're gonna get you.

01:01:09.946 --> 01:01:11.047
[SPEAKER_03]: You're gonna have to pay that $7.

01:01:12.048 --> 01:01:12.849
[SPEAKER_01]: You know who got me?

01:01:13.049 --> 01:01:20.856
[SPEAKER_01]: Recently, it's Fox One got me because I, I might not have for a, no, no, no, no, HBO got me with the March Madness.

01:01:21.156 --> 01:01:30.003
[SPEAKER_01]: But the Fox One got me with the Road Baseball Classic because they gave you a seven day free trial and the Road Baseball Classic was like 13 days.

01:01:30.744 --> 01:01:34.147
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I got all the way to like the quarter finals like, well crap.

01:01:34.167 --> 01:01:38.190
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I have to pay to get the quarter finals.

01:01:38.170 --> 01:01:42.018
[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for the YouTube TV had FS1 for me, so I was okay.

01:01:43.061 --> 01:01:43.501
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:01:43.522 --> 01:01:43.822
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.

01:01:43.842 --> 01:01:44.123
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:01:45.746 --> 01:01:46.087
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:01:46.107 --> 01:01:51.138
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, at March Madness got better because all you needed was HBO and Paramount.

01:01:51.198 --> 01:01:53.984
[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't need the TBS, the TNT because it was a long time ago.

01:01:54.004 --> 01:01:56.068
[SPEAKER_01]: It got a little easier to write.

01:01:56.089 --> 01:01:56.910
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the second layers here.

01:01:57.632 --> 01:01:57.732
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:01:58.775 --> 01:01:59.656
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but it is.

01:01:59.877 --> 01:02:00.297
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:02:00.498 --> 01:02:05.044
[SPEAKER_01]: I still, I think, especially if you grew up watching TV a different way.

01:02:05.525 --> 01:02:07.148
[SPEAKER_01]: I get the complaining about all the stream.

01:02:07.228 --> 01:02:07.608
[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.

01:02:08.209 --> 01:02:09.571
[SPEAKER_01]: I get it for the older people.

01:02:10.032 --> 01:02:12.175
[SPEAKER_03]: The younger people, you're just cheap and annoying.

01:02:12.856 --> 01:02:17.583
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I will say at the same time MLB TV and amazing product.

01:02:17.603 --> 01:02:18.825
[SPEAKER_03]: It's always the best product.

01:02:19.065 --> 01:02:22.611
[SPEAKER_03]: They're all, they're always been ahead of the game with streaming.

01:02:23.332 --> 01:02:26.757
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's time to have zero blackouts.

01:02:26.737 --> 01:02:28.700
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care if the game is on Apple TV.

01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:30.802
[SPEAKER_03]: I should still be able to watch it in the M.O.B.

01:02:30.822 --> 01:02:31.924
[SPEAKER_03]: app because I pay you.

01:02:32.585 --> 01:02:32.805
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:02:33.085 --> 01:02:33.966
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's how it is.

01:02:33.986 --> 01:02:37.851
[SPEAKER_01]: I watch, you know, I'm really into the Netherlands of Hawksies and having a good season.

01:02:38.292 --> 01:02:42.578
[SPEAKER_01]: And even when their game is on ESPN and NBC, they're still on their local halt.

01:02:42.638 --> 01:02:42.918
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

01:02:42.998 --> 01:02:43.479
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

01:02:43.559 --> 01:02:44.620
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's how it should be.

01:02:45.201 --> 01:02:48.625
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know it's like, they sign these 20 or TV contracts.

01:02:48.706 --> 01:02:50.187
[SPEAKER_03]: So things got expire and all.

01:02:50.228 --> 01:02:52.170
[SPEAKER_03]: And we'll get there eventually.

01:02:52.302 --> 01:02:53.884
[SPEAKER_03]: but that's how it should be.

01:02:54.445 --> 01:02:54.806
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:02:54.826 --> 01:03:10.709
[SPEAKER_01]: And it seems like with baseball and basketball hockey, it's reasonable, and maybe it's just the nature of the sport where you watch, there's just so many games, but seems like it's reasonable to get these streaming services football, the one that still seems a bit unreasonable.

01:03:10.849 --> 01:03:14.975
[SPEAKER_01]: Football, so amount of money it costs to watch football, football is ridiculous.

01:03:14.995 --> 01:03:17.058
[SPEAKER_03]: And how they limit the options of how you get.

01:03:17.078 --> 01:03:20.723
[SPEAKER_03]: Baseball, baseball, if you want to watch just the Orioles,

01:03:20.703 --> 01:03:22.626
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and you want to watch all the Oreo games.

01:03:23.267 --> 01:03:24.249
[SPEAKER_03]: It's 99 dollars.

01:03:25.190 --> 01:03:29.777
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, or you can get all of majorly baseball for like 150 bucks.

01:03:30.398 --> 01:03:32.842
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and be a similar and be a similar.

01:03:32.882 --> 01:03:33.884
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I pay.

01:03:34.345 --> 01:03:35.847
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a similar price for him.

01:03:36.067 --> 01:03:39.152
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah football just has to go away.

01:03:39.793 --> 01:03:44.601
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and there should be a way to just watch all Ravens games for something right.

01:03:44.648 --> 01:03:48.113
[SPEAKER_03]: This should be, there won't be, I don't know.

01:03:49.035 --> 01:03:56.707
[SPEAKER_03]: I heard Dana White, the president of the UFC, talk about this, because they recently made a deal with Paramount.

01:03:57.989 --> 01:03:58.911
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe it's Paramount.

01:03:59.572 --> 01:04:01.154
[SPEAKER_03]: It were HBA, one of those, same company.

01:04:01.174 --> 01:04:03.077
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what you can all see with these human services?

01:04:03.157 --> 01:04:11.230
[SPEAKER_01]: I just did it with Paramount, is I got the Paramount for the Olympics, and then I went to cancel Paramount, and I was paying $10 a month.

01:04:11.817 --> 01:04:16.562
[SPEAKER_01]: And they said, you can keep paramount for Pica, I think Picaque was the Olympics.

01:04:18.449 --> 01:04:19.971
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Peacock, that's what I'm talking about.

01:04:19.991 --> 01:04:26.217
[SPEAKER_01]: They said you keep Peacock, NBC, you keep Peacock for $2.99 for the next six months or something.

01:04:26.237 --> 01:04:30.562
[SPEAKER_01]: So sometimes you can't get deals, that'll get you a lesser press.

01:04:30.722 --> 01:04:33.305
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, if you were saying about Dana White.

01:04:33.785 --> 01:04:39.391
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Dana White said, did Lisa Lee made this deal with Paramount, and they said, that makes more sense Paramount for Dana White.

01:04:39.772 --> 01:04:43.055
[SPEAKER_03]: And they said, what politically, CBI?

01:04:43.095 --> 01:04:44.677
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it politically makes more sense, yeah.

01:04:44.697 --> 01:04:45.297
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I gotcha.

01:04:46.158 --> 01:04:47.680
[SPEAKER_03]: No, but he was saying,

01:04:47.660 --> 01:04:52.557
[SPEAKER_03]: what they finally made the deal because there was so much people still in the paper views.

01:04:53.110 --> 01:05:06.908
[SPEAKER_03]: that it wasn't, they weren't making money and they were getting all this bad rap, rap and people were just stealing paper views, so they've just made a deal of paramount where they just now they're making more money than ever with these monthly fees and that's what I think the NFL is gonna have to do.

01:05:07.208 --> 01:05:21.987
[SPEAKER_03]: Is the NFL is gonna hit that point where more people are stealing games than watching them on broadcast TV and they're gonna be like, well, we just gotta fix this and give a reasonable price to bake it so it's not worth stealing.

01:05:24.211 --> 01:05:33.324
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it was great with NFL is you pay all that money for the Sunday ticket and you still have to watch commercials and all the same commercials.

01:05:33.864 --> 01:05:34.225
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:05:34.245 --> 01:05:34.505
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:05:35.106 --> 01:05:36.388
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's pretty cool getting their money.

01:05:38.791 --> 01:05:38.992
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

01:05:39.012 --> 01:05:42.717
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you trying to delay the end of the show with the end of the Orioles game?

01:05:42.737 --> 01:05:43.838
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm saying quick.

01:05:43.878 --> 01:05:45.040
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's end this show before.

01:05:45.260 --> 01:05:45.741
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my.

01:05:45.801 --> 01:05:50.067
[SPEAKER_03]: Peter Lanzo just made an unbelievable play down first base line.

01:05:50.182 --> 01:05:53.105
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's not just that it was a great play, it's a situation, right?

01:05:53.145 --> 01:05:55.068
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a situation to understand.

01:05:55.088 --> 01:05:55.568
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot.

01:05:55.648 --> 01:05:56.209
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot to know about.

01:05:56.790 --> 01:05:59.393
[SPEAKER_01]: If that gets past him, we're talking about a tie baseball game.

01:05:59.493 --> 01:06:00.014
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

01:06:00.654 --> 01:06:02.336
[SPEAKER_01]: But he stops it and gets it out.

01:06:02.777 --> 01:06:04.138
[SPEAKER_01]: And so now there's going to be a second and third.

01:06:04.479 --> 01:06:05.600
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of want to end the show.

01:06:06.021 --> 01:06:09.144
[SPEAKER_01]: So if things get ugly, we don't have to talk about it right here.

01:06:09.264 --> 01:06:10.045
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we're not.

01:06:10.826 --> 01:06:12.648
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we feel like it's so.

01:06:13.349 --> 01:06:15.712
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how I feel about ending the show with us.

01:06:15.952 --> 01:06:18.315
[SPEAKER_03]: Angry that the Orioles fell apart again.

01:06:18.633 --> 01:06:20.599
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it looks like a packed house in Chicago too.

01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:22.064
[SPEAKER_01]: One of them that's a sellout.

01:06:22.526 --> 01:06:23.248
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just kidding.

01:06:23.589 --> 01:06:24.351
[SPEAKER_03]: Open seats everywhere.

01:06:24.392 --> 01:06:25.736
[SPEAKER_03]: There's there.

01:06:25.756 --> 01:06:27.040
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they do the, uh,

01:06:27.948 --> 01:06:29.010
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's cold.

01:06:29.070 --> 01:06:30.432
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at all the winter coats.

01:06:30.452 --> 01:06:31.134
[SPEAKER_02]: It is cold.

01:06:31.154 --> 01:06:33.037
[SPEAKER_03]: It's cold in Chicago.

01:06:33.277 --> 01:06:39.669
[SPEAKER_03]: I know that I have now become like sensitive to the cold and because I've adjusted to this Florida weather.

01:06:40.250 --> 01:06:40.570
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

01:06:40.590 --> 01:06:41.232
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

01:06:41.252 --> 01:06:41.472
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

01:06:41.492 --> 01:06:41.612
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

01:06:41.672 --> 01:06:44.617
[SPEAKER_03]: Now it was 70 degrees outside today.

01:06:44.658 --> 01:06:47.082
[SPEAKER_03]: So I turned on my heated seats again.

01:06:47.142 --> 01:06:47.943
[SPEAKER_03]: That's silly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I've adapted.

01:06:49.987 --> 01:06:55.112
[SPEAKER_03]: So, but it was like 60 and I'm bundled up in a sweatshirt today in the city.

01:06:55.132 --> 01:07:02.339
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm like, what I thought, I'm in shorts and t-shirt, but I've got the heated seats on because it's nice to be comfortable.

01:07:02.980 --> 01:07:04.842
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:07:05.523 --> 01:07:06.083
[SPEAKER_03]: That's good out here.

01:07:06.263 --> 01:07:07.725
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I guess we're just going to end the, yeah.

01:07:08.005 --> 01:07:09.146
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how cool it is.

01:07:09.166 --> 01:07:11.589
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is a great sports Monday.

01:07:11.629 --> 01:07:13.030
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe we're doing the podcast tonight.

01:07:13.050 --> 01:07:14.852
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we got the National Championship on.

01:07:15.272 --> 01:07:19.977
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, my Hawks are playing the next and then we got this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, alright, let's get out of here.

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01:07:34.616 --> 01:07:39.462
[SPEAKER_03]: And on just, just wrote down and everything is at section three, three, six.com.

01:07:39.482 --> 01:07:42.125
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, thanks for listening, boys and girls.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as always, go.

01:07:46.366 --> 01:07:55.742
[SPEAKER_05]: If I get from the city to the chest, if you pay, you're there.

01:07:55.762 --> 01:08:11.749
[SPEAKER_05]: That bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird, that bird

01:08:25.735 --> 01:08:41.690
[SPEAKER_05]: Come on, people, let me keep you safe.

01:08:41.710 --> 01:08:47.416
[SPEAKER_05]: We are the fan birds, and we run this town.

01:08:47.436 --> 01:08:48.457
[SPEAKER_05]: When you step into the army must protect this hand.

01:08:48.477 --> 01:08:49.878
[SPEAKER_05]: We are the fan birds, haven't you heard?

01:08:49.898 --> 01:08:51.019
[SPEAKER_05]: Got their underdogs, never will be crushed in the curve.

01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:52.480
[SPEAKER_05]: And we really don't care what they hate and say.

01:08:52.500 --> 01:08:53.681
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll be right here from the city to the chest, if you pay.

01:08:53.702 --> 01:08:54.562
[SPEAKER_05]: You're the fan birds, and we run this town.

01:08:54.582 --> 01:08:55.303
[SPEAKER_05]: Everybody knows you ain't necessary.

01:09:20.123 --> 01:09:40.619
[SPEAKER_05]: And we run this town, when you step into the only must protect this town You're the fan of it, haven't you heard?

01:09:40.639 --> 01:09:45.507
[SPEAKER_05]: Got that underdog's time, and we'll be crushing the curb And we really don't care what they hate is said We'll be rocking from the city to the chastle-peak bay You're the fan of it, and we run this town Everybody knows you ain't messin' around